Eric

This is really a Cost Management Accounting issue which is usually
beyond basic books on principles of Accounting so if you can find a
book on Cost Management Accounting it may give a better understanding
of the process. 

An outline of the basic process for dealing with direct maerials and
labour costs would be for the purchase of materials and application of
direct labour to production

on purchase

Assets:WIP Inventory  Dr xxxx
Liabilities:Accounts Payable  Cr xxx

payments for purchase

Assets:Bank Account Cr zzzz
Liabilities::Accounts Payable  Dr zzzz

here zzzz may not be for a single purchase but for multiple purchases.

when the labour is performed 
Assets:WiP Inventory Dr yyyy
Liabilities:Wages Payable  Cr yyyy

when wages are paid
Assets:Bank  Cr pppp
Liabilities:Wages Payable  Dr pppp
and again pppp may be the sum of several such entries.

at the completion of the production process os a batch of product you
would prepare a report of the costs of production for that batch and
calculate a unit cost of the product. Your costs may for example
include materials purchases at different times with a differnt unit
cost.

Then you would transfer the product from the Work in Progress Inventory
to the Stock Inventory at that unit cost.

(n widgets at unit cost ccc =n*ccc )=qqqq
Asset:Inventory WiP    Cr  qqqq 
Asset: Inventory:Stock Dr  qqqq

These costs are usually expensed at the time of sale, not at the time
they are incurred, through entries which decrease the inventory an
expense through cost of goods sold.

Similarly they don't affect income until they are sold.  A typical sale
entry would be

Asset:Bank              Dr  xxxx
Income Sales            Cr  xxxx
Asset:Inventory:Stock   Cr  yyyy
Expenses:COGS           Dr  yyyy

There are a lot of complex parts of complex accounting for
manufacturing processes (allowances for spoilage etc etc, overhead
costs and many more) and whether using FIFO or some other basis for
managing inventory. 

Often there will be standard treatments in your jurisdiction for
particular industries approved by the tax authorities which make
consulting a practising accountant in your jurisdiction with relevant
experience a very good idea.

The process above is generic and meant to be illustrative and does not
constitute accounting advice which may be relevant to your situation.
You will likely have to maintain many aspects of the cost management
accounting outside GnuCash (e.g. spreadshetts or other software) as
GnuCash does not have inventory and cost management programmed in and
can only handle the accounts aspects of it.

David Cousens


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> Question: correct debit account for labor:
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> I have completely replaced my defunct Quicken with GnuCash, and now
> trying to get the details fine-tuned:
> I am using Job cost accounting for my business, my main resource is
> the OpenStax book - "Principles of Accounting, Volume 2: Managerial
> Accounting" page224 - 226
>         And a lot of internet searches...
> 
> Entering my labor, parts/supplies would look like this:
> Assets:Jobs:xxxxxx:WIP         500.00
> ________:Direct Labor                           120.00
> Assets: Stock                                               20.00
> ________:Direct Labor                            360.00
> 
> 1. If I use "Expenses:Direct Labor" as the credit account then those
> account balances are all negative (which, at least, looks weird in an
> expense journal) 
> 2. If i use "Income:Direct Labor" the balances are positive.
> 
> With settings #2 all the tax reports look correct. I didn't check
> during #1 settings. 
> 
> Which one is correct? Does GnuCash care about the negative balance?
> Is there a better way log it?
> 
> Thank you for a great accounting tool, and all your help.
> 
> Eric Hammond
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