Flavio, OK, good. Does /Library/Perl/5.34/Test/Simple.pm exist?
Regards, John Ralls > On Oct 6, 2024, at 11:45, Boniforti Flavio <bonifort...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi John. > > The output of "sudo cpan Test::Simple" is very long, the last part being: > > Appending installation info to > /Library/Perl/Updates/5.34.1/darwin-thread-multi-2level/perllocal.pod > EXODIST/Test-Simple-1.302204.tar.gz > /usr/bin/make install -- OK > > Do you need more output? > F. > > https://www.instagram.com/boniforti_music > https://soundcloud.com/boniforti_music > https://bonny-j.bandcamp.com <https://bonny-j.bandcamp.com/> > > Am So., 6. Okt. 2024 um 18:37 Uhr schrieb John Ralls <jra...@ceridwen.us > <mailto:jra...@ceridwen.us>>: >> Flavio, >> >> No, you don’t need to install perl from Homebrew. You’d also have to edit >> GnuCash’s environment file to make it work and there’s no benefit. We were >> chasing the Homebrew perl possibility trying to figure out if >> Finance::Quote’s dependencies had gotten installed. >> >> Your list shows that everything got at least downloaded, so at least that >> much worked. IIRC Test::Simple has no dependencies,, so try >> sudo cpan Test::Simple >> If you followed Bruce’s instruction to chown ~/.cpan leave off sudo. >> >> What’s the output? >> >> Regards, >> John Ralls >> >> >>> On Oct 6, 2024, at 03:39, Boniforti Flavio <bonifort...@gmail.com >>> <mailto:bonifort...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi John. >>> >>> Yes, indeed I used gnc-fq-update. >>> >>> Do you suggest that I get Perl from Homebrew? If so, do I need to uninstall >>> the existing Perl installation (which apparently came with MacOS)? >>> >>> Here's the output of the ls command: >>> >>> bonny@Flavios-MacBook-Pro ~ % ls ~/.cpan/build >>> Archive-Any-Lite-0.11-0 HTTP-Daemon-6.16-0 >>> Sereal-Decoder-5.004-0 >>> Archive-Any-Lite-0.11-0.yml HTTP-Daemon-6.16-0.yml >>> Sereal-Decoder-5.004-0.yml >>> Array-Diff-0.09-0 JSON-Parse-0.62-0 >>> Sereal-Encoder-5.004-0 >>> Array-Diff-0.09-0.yml JSON-Parse-0.62-0.yml >>> Sereal-Encoder-5.004-0.yml >>> B-Keywords-1.27-0 Lingua-EN-Inflect-1.905-0 >>> Software-License-0.104006-0 >>> B-Keywords-1.27-0.yml >>> Lingua-EN-Inflect-1.905-0.yml >>> Software-License-0.104006-0.yml >>> Config-Tiny-2.30-0 List-SomeUtils-0.59-0 >>> Spreadsheet-ParseExcel-0.66-0 >>> Config-Tiny-2.30-0.yml >>> List-SomeUtils-0.59-0.yml >>> Spreadsheet-ParseExcel-0.66-0.yml >>> Crypt-RC4-2.02-0 List-SomeUtils-XS-0.58-0 >>> Spreadsheet-XLSX-0.18-0 >>> Crypt-RC4-2.02-0.yml >>> List-SomeUtils-XS-0.58-0.yml Spreadsheet-XLSX-0.18-0.yml >>> Data-Binary-0.01-0 MCE-1.900-0 >>> String-Format-1.18-0 >>> Data-Binary-0.01-0.yml MCE-1.900-0.yml >>> String-Format-1.18-0.yml >>> Data-Section-0.200008-0 Mock-Config-0.03-0 >>> String-Util-1.35-0 >>> Data-Section-0.200008-0.yml Mock-Config-0.03-0.yml >>> String-Util-1.35-0.yml >>> Date-Manip-6.95-0 Module-CPANTS-Analyse-1.02-0 >>> Test-FailWarnings-0.008-0 >>> Date-Manip-6.95-0.yml >>> Module-CPANTS-Analyse-1.02-0.yml >>> Test-FailWarnings-0.008-0.yml >>> Date-Range-1.41-0 Module-CPANfile-1.1004-0 >>> Test-File-1.993-0 >>> Date-Range-1.41-0.yml >>> Module-CPANfile-1.1004-0.yml Test-File-1.993-0.yml >>> Date-Simple-3.03-0 Mozilla-CA-20240924-0 >>> Test-Inter-1.11-0 >>> Date-Simple-3.03-0.yml >>> Mozilla-CA-20240924-0.yml Test-Inter-1.11-0.yml >>> DateTime-Format-Builder-0.83-0 >>> Mozilla-PublicSuffix-v1.0.7-0 Test-Kwalitee-1.28-0 >>> DateTime-Format-Builder-0.83-0.yml >>> Mozilla-PublicSuffix-v1.0.7-0.yml Test-Kwalitee-1.28-0.yml >>> DateTime-Format-ISO8601-0.16-0 OLE-Storage_Lite-0.22-0 >>> Test-LeakTrace-0.17-0 >>> DateTime-Format-ISO8601-0.16-0.yml OLE-Storage_Lite-0.22-0.yml >>> Test-LeakTrace-0.17-0.yml >>> DateTime-Format-Strptime-1.79-0 PPI-1.279-0 >>> Test-LongString-0.17-0 >>> DateTime-Format-Strptime-1.79-0.yml PPI-1.279-0.yml >>> Test-LongString-0.17-0.yml >>> DateTime-Locale-1.43-0 PPIx-QuoteLike-0.023-0 >>> Test-More-UTF8-0.05-0 >>> DateTime-Locale-1.43-0.yml PPIx-QuoteLike-0.023-0.yml >>> Test-More-UTF8-0.05-0.yml >>> Devel-CheckLib-1.16-0 PPIx-Regexp-0.088-0 >>> Test-NoWarnings-1.06-0 >>> Devel-CheckLib-1.16-0.yml PPIx-Regexp-0.088-0.yml >>> Test-NoWarnings-1.06-0.yml >>> Devel-Symdump-2.18-0 PPIx-Utils-0.003-0 >>> Test-Perl-Critic-1.04-0 >>> Devel-Symdump-2.18-0.yml PPIx-Utils-0.003-0.yml >>> Test-Perl-Critic-1.04-0.yml >>> Digest-Perl-MD5-1.9-0 Parse-Distname-0.05-0 >>> Test-Pod-Coverage-1.10-0 >>> Digest-Perl-MD5-1.9-0.yml Parse-Distname-0.05-0.yml >>> Test-Pod-Coverage-1.10-0.yml >>> ExtUtils-MakeMaker-CPANfile-0.09-0 Perl-Critic-1.152-0 >>> Test-Simple-1.302204-0 >>> ExtUtils-MakeMaker-CPANfile-0.09-0.yml Perl-Critic-1.152-0.yml >>> Test-Simple-1.302204-0.yml >>> File-Find-Object-0.3.8-0 >>> Perl-PrereqScanner-NotQuiteLite-0.9917-0 Test-UseAllModules-0.17-0 >>> File-Find-Object-0.3.8-0.yml >>> Perl-PrereqScanner-NotQuiteLite-0.9917-0.yml >>> Test-UseAllModules-0.17-0.yml >>> File-TreeCreate-0.0.1-0 Perl-Tidy-20240903-0 >>> Text-Template-1.61-0 >>> File-TreeCreate-0.0.1-0.yml Perl-Tidy-20240903-0.yml >>> Text-Template-1.61-0.yml >>> Finance-Quote-1.63-0 Pod-Coverage-0.23-0 >>> Web-Scraper-0.38-0 >>> Finance-Quote-1.63-0.yml Pod-Coverage-0.23-0.yml >>> Web-Scraper-0.38-0.yml >>> HTML-Selector-XPath-0.28-0 Pod-Parser-1.67-0 >>> XML-XPathEngine-0.14-0 >>> HTML-Selector-XPath-0.28-0.yml Pod-Parser-1.67-0.yml >>> XML-XPathEngine-0.14-0.yml >>> HTML-TableExtract-2.15-0 Pod-Spell-1.26-0 >>> libwww-perl-6.77-0 >>> HTML-TableExtract-2.15-0.yml Pod-Spell-1.26-0.yml >>> libwww-perl-6.77-0.yml >>> HTML-TreeBuilder-XPath-0.14-0 Readonly-2.05-0 >>> local-lib-2.000029-0 >>> HTML-TreeBuilder-XPath-0.14-0.yml Readonly-2.05-0.yml >>> local-lib-2.000029-0.yml >>> HTTP-CookieJar-0.014-0 Regexp-Trie-0.02-0 >>> HTTP-CookieJar-0.014-0.yml Regexp-Trie-0.02-0.yml >>> >>> Thanks, >>> F. >>> >>> https://www.instagram.com/boniforti_music >>> https://soundcloud.com/boniforti_music >>> https://bonny-j.bandcamp.com <https://bonny-j.bandcamp.com/> >>> >>> Am So., 6. Okt. 2024 um 00:55 Uhr schrieb John Ralls <jra...@ceridwen.us >>> <mailto:jra...@ceridwen.us>>: >>>> Flavio, >>>> >>>> Ah, you followed the instructions on >>>> https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v5/C/gnucash-manual/fq-install.html, so you >>>> used gnc-fq-update. >>>> >>>> Perl does come with macOS, but it’s not the latest release and some people >>>> use Homebrew to get it. >>>> >>>> The Quote.pms you’ve got aren’t Finance::Quote, so the attempt to install >>>> it with gnc-fq-update failed. You ran sudo gnc-fq-update and that created >>>> a ~/.cpan owned by root, which is why attempting to run cpan >>>> Finance::Quote bailed with the permission error. >>>> >>>> What;s does >>>> ls ~/.cpan/build >>>> report? >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> John Ralls >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Oct 5, 2024, at 14:32, Boniforti Flavio <bonifort...@gmail.com >>>>> <mailto:bonifort...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi John. >>>>> In fact I followed the instructions on that page, but nothing tells me >>>>> how to install JSON::Parse. >>>>> I verified that I had Perl installed and then I proceeded to install >>>>> Finance::Quote as explained there in the Mac paragraph. >>>>> >>>>> I ran the find command you suggested, except for the fact that I had to >>>>> remove "-x" as it wouldn't work with MacOS Sonoma. Anyway, these are the >>>>> places where Quote.pm has been found: >>>>> >>>>> /System/Library/Perl/Extras/5.30/Sub/Quote.pm >>>>> /System/Library/Perl/Extras/5.30/PPI/Token/Quote.pm >>>>> /System/Library/Perl/Extras/5.34/Sub/Quote.pm >>>>> /System/Library/Perl/Extras/5.34/PPI/Token/Quote.pm >>>>> >>>>> The output of "which perl" reads "/usr/bin/perl", thus I think that I >>>>> never installed Perl from Homebrew (I think Perl comes with the OS >>>>> already). >>>>> >>>>> F. >>>>> >>>>> https://www.instagram.com/boniforti_music >>>>> https://soundcloud.com/boniforti_music >>>>> https://bonny-j.bandcamp.com <https://bonny-j.bandcamp.com/> >>>>> >>>>> Am Sa., 5. Okt. 2024 um 19:18 Uhr schrieb John Ralls <jra...@ceridwen.us >>>>> <mailto:jra...@ceridwen.us>>: >>>>>> Flavio, >>>>>> >>>>>> That page says the you need perl, JSON::Parse, and Finance::Quote, but >>>>>> it doesn’t say anything about how to get them. What did you do? >>>>>> >>>>>> At this point I think it’s worthwhile to see if you installed >>>>>> Finance::Quote at all. Run >>>>>> find / -x -name Quote.pm >>>>>> It will take a while, it’s going to search all of your SSD. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you’d used Homebrew to install perl you’ll find it in >>>>>> /opt/homebrew/bin. If you’ve run the Homebrew installer it will have >>>>>> modified your shell startup to place that first in $PATH so that >>>>>> which perl >>>>>> would return /opt/homebrew/bin/perl` instead of /usr/bin/perl. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> John Ralls >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Oct 5, 2024, at 01:27, Boniforti Flavio <bonifort...@gmail.com >>>>>>> <mailto:bonifort...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi John. >>>>>>> I followed the instructions at: >>>>>>> https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v5/C/gnucash-manual/finance-quote.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I also found this: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> me@FMacBook-Pro ~ % ls -la /Library/Perl >>>>>>> total 0 >>>>>>> drwxr-xr-x 4 root wheel 128 Aug 4 12:31 . >>>>>>> drwxr-xr-x 69 root wheel 2208 Aug 18 16:38 .. >>>>>>> drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 96 Aug 4 12:31 5.30 >>>>>>> drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 96 Aug 4 12:31 5.34 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But both 5.30 and 5.34 directories are almost empty (at least there's >>>>>>> no Finance folder in both of them). >>>>>>> F. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://www.instagram.com/boniforti_music >>>>>>> https://soundcloud.com/boniforti_music >>>>>>> https://bonny-j.bandcamp.com <https://bonny-j.bandcamp.com/> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Am Fr., 4. Okt. 2024 um 22:17 Uhr schrieb John Ralls >>>>>>> <jra...@ceridwen.us <mailto:jra...@ceridwen.us>>: >>>>>>>> Flavio, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The almost empty /Library/Perl/5.34/ means that you didn't install >>>>>>>> Finance::Quote there. Please link the instructions that you used. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>> John Ralls >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > On Oct 4, 2024, at 11:18 AM, Boniforti Flavio <bonifort...@gmail.com >>>>>>>> > <mailto:bonifort...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Hi John. >>>>>>>> > This is the output of the "file" command: >>>>>>>> > /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/MacOS/Gnucash: Mach-O 64-bit >>>>>>>> > executable arm64 >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > And these the contents of the Perl library path - I think there's >>>>>>>> > something missing: >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > me@MacBook-Pro ~ % ls -la /Library/Perl/5.34 >>>>>>>> > total 0 >>>>>>>> > drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 96 Aug 4 12:31 . >>>>>>>> > drwxr-xr-x 4 root wheel 128 Aug 4 12:31 .. >>>>>>>> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 33 Aug 4 12:31 AppendToPath >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > What do you suggest next? >>>>>>>> > Thanks, >>>>>>>> > F. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > https://www.instagram.com/boniforti_music >>>>>>>> > https://soundcloud.com/boniforti_music >>>>>>>> > https://bonny-j.bandcamp.com <https://bonny-j.bandcamp.com/> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Am Do., 3. Okt. 2024 um 21:22 Uhr schrieb John Ralls >>>>>>>> > <jra...@ceridwen.us <mailto:jra...@ceridwen.us>>: >>>>>>>> > Flavio, >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > I bet HomeBrew didn’t pick up the Apple Silicon build, but to make >>>>>>>> > sure you can run >>>>>>>> > file /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/MacOS/Gnucash >>>>>>>> > Which will return something like >>>>>>>> > /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/MacOS/Gnucash: Mach-O 64-bit >>>>>>>> > executable x86_64 >>>>>>>> > For an Intel build; the end will be arm64e for an Apple Silicon one. >>>>>>>> > If it’s an Intel build the simpler option is to get the Apple >>>>>>>> > Silicon build from https;//www.gnucash.org >>>>>>>> > <http://www.gnucash.org/>, but if you’d rather not you’ll have to >>>>>>>> > reinstall Finance::Quote, see >>>>>>>> > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Online_Quotes#Installing_Finance::Quote_on_macOS_from_a_Terminal_prompt. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > That doesn’t explain why perldoc can’t find Finance::Quote though. >>>>>>>> > Does /Library/Perl/5.34/Finance/Quote.pm exist? >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Regards, >>>>>>>> > John Ralls >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >> On Oct 2, 2024, at 21:45, Boniforti Flavio <bonifort...@gmail.com >>>>>>>> >> <mailto:bonifort...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> Hi John. >>>>>>>> >> I installed GnuCash with HomeBrew. I did not manually install Perl >>>>>>>> >> - it was already there: >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> me@MacBook-Pro ~ % perl -v >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> This is perl 5, version 34, subversion 1 (v5.34.1) built for >>>>>>>> >> darwin-thread-multi-2level >>>>>>>> >> (with 2 registered patches, see perl -V for more detail) >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> Copyright 1987-2022, Larry Wall >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> Perl may be copied only under the terms of either the Artistic >>>>>>>> >> License or the >>>>>>>> >> GNU General Public License, which may be found in the Perl 5 source >>>>>>>> >> kit. >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> Complete documentation for Perl, including FAQ lists, should be >>>>>>>> >> found on >>>>>>>> >> this system using "man perl" or "perldoc perl". If you have access >>>>>>>> >> to the >>>>>>>> >> Internet, point your browser at http://www.perl.org/, the Perl Home >>>>>>>> >> Page. >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> My MBP is an M1. >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> Thanks for helping, >>>>>>>> >> F. >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> https://www.instagram.com/boniforti_music >>>>>>>> >> https://soundcloud.com/boniforti_music >>>>>>>> >> https://bonny-j.bandcamp.com <https://bonny-j.bandcamp.com/> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> Am Do., 3. Okt. 2024 um 01:13 Uhr schrieb John Ralls >>>>>>>> >> <jra...@ceridwen.us <mailto:jra...@ceridwen.us>>: >>>>>>>> >> Flavio, >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> What did you actually do? Do you by any chance have a perl >>>>>>>> >> installed that isn’t from Apple, perhaps HomeBrew or MacPorts? Is >>>>>>>> >> your MBP an Intel or Apple Silicon one and did you install the >>>>>>>> >> GnuCash that matches the architecture? >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> Regards, >>>>>>>> >> John Ralls >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> > On Oct 2, 2024, at 12:03, Boniforti Flavio <bonifort...@gmail.com >>>>>>>> >> > <mailto:bonifort...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >> > Hi all. >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >> > On MacOS Sonoma 14.6.1 I've just followed the instructions from >>>>>>>> >> > the GnuCash >>>>>>>> >> > documentation to install the Finance::Quote module. >>>>>>>> >> > After finishing without errors, I tried to use it but it won't >>>>>>>> >> > initialize - >>>>>>>> >> > see here: >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >> > me@MacBook-Pro ~ % >>>>>>>> >> > /System/Volumes/Data/Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/MacOS/gnucash-cli >>>>>>>> >> > -Q >>>>>>>> >> > info >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >> > Application Path >>>>>>>> >> > /System/Volumes/Data/Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/MacOS/gnucash-cli >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >> > Failed to initialize Finance::Quote: missing_modules >>>>>>>> >> > Finance::Quote >>>>>>>> >> > JSON::Parse >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >> > Even Perl doesn't know about its existence: >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >> > me@MacBook-Pro ~ % perldoc Finance::Quote >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >> > No documentation found for "Finance::Quote". >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >> > Is anybody able to help me understand what's gone wrong and how >>>>>>>> >> > to fix it? >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >> > Thanks, >>>>>>>> >> > F. >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >> > https://www.instagram.com/boniforti_music >>>>>>>> >> > https://soundcloud.com/boniforti_music >>>>>>>> >> > https://bonny-j.bandcamp.com <https://bonny-j.bandcamp.com/> >>>>>>>> >> > _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> >> > gnucash-user mailing list >>>>>>>> >> > gnucash-user@gnucash.org <mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org> >>>>>>>> >> > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >>>>>>>> >> > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >>>>>>>> >> > ----- >>>>>>>> >> > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >>>>>>>> >> > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> > _______________________________________________ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user ----- Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. 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