Depends on the bug. Just like every other development team they have more bugs 
than engineers so they have to prioritize. Some things get fixed quickly, 
others take a while, and some never get attention. I don’t know who maintains 
the libc that Apple uses. If it’s FreeBSD then they won’t consider it a bug 
because their file systems are case sensitive.

As for what to do, that should be obvious: Spell the path correctly, where 
spell includes case.
You also need to run gnc-update-fq again to get JSON::Parse installed.

Regards,
John Ralls

> On May 20, 2024, at 22:00, Ernie Wakamatsu <etwak...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> One could hope Apple will fix bugs in a timely manner :-p.  
> 
> So what should I do to workaround this bug or am I hosed?
> 
> Ernie
> 
> 
>> On 21 May 2024, at 1:21 PM, John Ralls <jra...@ceridwen.us> wrote:
>> 
>> Hah! I didn’t even notice that. It’s pretty funny.
>> 
>> The *file system* is by default case-preserving, meaning that you can create 
>> either macOS or MacOS but not both; preserving means that it will keep 
>> whichever one you create first. The shell is too, though Bash completion is 
>> case-sensitive. Apparently dlopen is case-sensitive too: when we call 
>> `dlopen(/Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/macOS/lib/gnucash/libgncmod-backend-dbi.dylib,
>>  0x0009)` it fails to find the file. You can see this yourself by running 
>>   /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/macOS/gnucash-cli --debug —logto=stdout 
>> -Q info
>> It’s in the first line of output.
>> 
>> I’m going to file a bug with Apple on that if it’s still true when the first 
>> macOS 15 developer beta comes out in 3 weeks. Maybe they’ll fix it.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> John Ralls
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 20, 2024, at 18:07, Ernie Wakamatsu <etwak...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Very strange.  I get two results.
>>> 
>>> First, following your instructions, by coping and pasting
>>> Ernie@Ernie-Mac-mini contents % zsh -df
>>> Ernie-Mac-mini% /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/MacOS/gnucash-cli -Q info
>>> Application Path /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/MacOS/gnucash-cli
>>> Failed to initialize Finance::Quote: missing_modules JSON::Parse
>>> 
>>> But when I type in the command line:
>>> 
>>> Ernie-Mac-mini% /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/macOS/gnucash-cli -Q info
>>> Application Path /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/macOS/gnucash-cli
>>> * 11:01:28  WARN <gnc.engine> failed to load gncmod-backend-dbi from 
>>> relative path 
>>> * 11:01:28 ERROR <gnc.engine> required library gncmod-backend-dbi not found.
>>> * 11:01:28  WARN <gnc.engine> failed to load gncmod-backend-xml from 
>>> relative path 
>>> * 11:01:28 ERROR <gnc.engine> required library gncmod-backend-xml not found.
>>> * 11:01:28 ERROR <GLib-GIO> g_settings_schema_source_lookup: assertion 
>>> 'source != NULL' failed
>>> * 11:01:28 ERROR <GLib-GIO> g_settings_new_full: assertion 'schema != NULL' 
>>> failed
>>> * 11:01:28  WARN <gnc.app-utils.gsettings> 
>>> [gnc_gsettings_get_settings_obj()] Ignoring attempt to access unknown 
>>> gsettings schema org.gnucash.GnuCash.general
>>> zsh: segmentation fault  
>>> /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/macOS/gnucash-cli -Q info
>>> 
>>> The two command lines are seemingly the same, but the difference is macOS 
>>> and MacOS.  I thought the shell was not case sensitive.  hmmmm  The 
>>> behavior is the same when I exit from the default shell.
>>> 
>>> I did check the directory and it is MacOS.
>>> 
>>> Ernie-Mac-mini% cd /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents
>>> Ernie-Mac-mini% ls
>>> Info.plist  MacOS           PkgInfo         Resources       _CodeSignature
>>> Ernie-Mac-mini% 
>>> 
>>> Odd that it would behave differently.
>>> 
>>> Thoughts?
>>> 
>>> Ernie
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 21 May 2024, at 2:50 AM, John Ralls <jra...@ceridwen.us> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Ernie,
>>>> 
>>>> The double slash is present in my output too, and it’s harmless. 
>>>> 
>>>> That shows that the app bundle is complete and uncorrupted. Something is 
>>>> getting in the way of dlopen finding those two libraries.
>>>> 
>>>> Try getting a purely default shell environment by running 
>>>>    zsh -df
>>>> That opens a new sub shell with no environment variables set and ignoring 
>>>> all of your zsh config files. You can quit back to your regular shell with 
>>>> <control>d, but first try running 
>>>>   /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/MacOS/gnucash-cli -Q info
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> John Ralls
>>>> 
>>>>> On May 19, 2024, at 22:22, Ernie Wakamatsu <etwak...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks John,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I ran the below commands and this is what I got.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ernie@Ernie-Mac-mini contents % spctl --assess -vv 
>>>>> /applications/gnucash.app
>>>>> /applications/gnucash.app: accepted
>>>>> source=Notarized Developer ID
>>>>> origin=Developer ID Application: John D Ralls (Y9EHT5WMK7)
>>>>> Ernie@Ernie-Mac-mini contents % otool -L 
>>>>> /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/Resources/lib/gnucash/libgncmod-backend-dbi.dylib
>>>>> /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/Resources/lib/gnucash/libgncmod-backend-dbi.dylib:
>>>>>   @executable_path/../Resources//lib/gnucash/libgncmod-backend-dbi.dylib 
>>>>> (compatibility version 0.0.0, current version 0.0.0)
>>>>>   @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libgnc-backend-sql.dylib 
>>>>> (compatibility version 0.0.0, current version 0.0.0)
>>>>>   @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libgnc-engine.dylib (compatibility 
>>>>> version 0.0.0, current version 0.0.0)
>>>>>   @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libdbi.3.dylib (compatibility version 
>>>>> 4.0.0, current version 4.0.0)
>>>>>   @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libgnc-core-utils.dylib 
>>>>> (compatibility version 0.0.0, current version 0.0.0)
>>>>>   @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libboost_regex.dylib (compatibility 
>>>>> version 0.0.0, current version 0.0.0)
>>>>>   @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libboost_date_time.dylib 
>>>>> (compatibility version 0.0.0, current version 0.0.0)
>>>>>   @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libicui18n.73.dylib (compatibility 
>>>>> version 73.0.0, current version 73.2.0)
>>>>>   @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libicuuc.73.dylib (compatibility 
>>>>> version 73.0.0, current version 73.2.0)
>>>>>   @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libicudata.73.dylib (compatibility 
>>>>> version 73.0.0, current version 73.2.0)
>>>>>   @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libgmodule-2.0.0.dylib (compatibility 
>>>>> version 7601.0.0, current version 7601.3.0)
>>>>>   @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libglib-2.0.0.dylib (compatibility 
>>>>> version 7601.0.0, current version 7601.3.0)
>>>>>   @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libintl.8.dylib (compatibility 
>>>>> version 13.0.0, current version 13.0.0)
>>>>>   @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libgobject-2.0.0.dylib (compatibility 
>>>>> version 7601.0.0, current version 7601.3.0)
>>>>>   /usr/lib/libc++.1.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 
>>>>> 1300.36.0)
>>>>>   /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current 
>>>>> version 1319.0.0)
>>>>> Ernie@Ernie-Mac-mini contents % 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Compared to your output, the only difference I can find is in the first 
>>>>> line where I have a double slash:
>>>>> 
>>>>> @executable_path/../Resources//lib/gnucash/libgncmod-backend-dbi.dylib 
>>>>> (compatibility version 0.0.0, current version 0.0.0)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Just eyeballing, everything else looks the same. Could this double slash 
>>>>> be causing me troubles?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ernie
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 20 May 2024, at 1:52 PM, John Ralls <jra...@ceridwen.us> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On May 19, 2024, at 18:03, Ernie Wakamatsu <etwak...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> First time user of this mailing list and just starting to use gnucash.  
>>>>>>> Been transferring information over from Quicken and I am getting things 
>>>>>>> close to the way I would like.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I am trying to download stock prices, but getting the following errors.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ernie@Ernie-Mac-mini ~ % 
>>>>>>> /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/macOS/gnucash-cli -Q info
>>>>>>> Application Path /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/macOS/gnucash-cli
>>>>>>> * 11:59:02  WARN <gnc.engine> failed to load gncmod-backend-dbi from 
>>>>>>> relative path 
>>>>>>> * 11:59:02 ERROR <gnc.engine> required library gncmod-backend-dbi not 
>>>>>>> found.
>>>>>>> * 11:59:02  WARN <gnc.engine> failed to load gncmod-backend-xml from 
>>>>>>> relative path 
>>>>>>> * 11:59:02 ERROR <gnc.engine> required library gncmod-backend-xml not 
>>>>>>> found.
>>>>>>> * 11:59:02 ERROR <GLib-GIO> g_settings_schema_source_lookup: assertion 
>>>>>>> 'source != NULL' failed
>>>>>>> * 11:59:02 ERROR <GLib-GIO> g_settings_new_full: assertion 'schema != 
>>>>>>> NULL' failed
>>>>>>> * 11:59:02  WARN <gnc.app-utils.gsettings> 
>>>>>>> [gnc_gsettings_get_settings_obj()] Ignoring attempt to access unknown 
>>>>>>> gsettings schema org.gnucash.GnuCash.general
>>>>>>> zsh: segmentation fault  
>>>>>>> /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/macOS/gnucash-cli -Q info
>>>>>>> Ernie@Ernie-Mac-mini ~ % 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> As you can tell, I am on a Mac Mini running Sonoma 14.4.1 (latest?).  
>>>>>>> Looks like I may be missing some files.  Tried the wiki and other 
>>>>>>> search engines but not finding any answers.  How can I resolve the 
>>>>>>> above?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks in advance for any assistance.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Not quite the latest macOS version, 14.5 dropped last week. That’s 
>>>>>> unlikely to matter.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The two files that it can’t find, libgncmon-backend-dbi.dylib and 
>>>>>> libgncmod-backend-xml.dylib, should be in 
>>>>>> /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/Rsources/lib/gnucash. If you have 
>>>>>> Xcode or Xcode command line tools installed and they’re present you can 
>>>>>> run e.g.
>>>>>>  otool -L 
>>>>>> /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/Resources/lib/gnucash/libgncmod-backend-dbi.dylib
>>>>>> The output should be
>>>>>> Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/Resources/lib/gnucash/libgncmod-backend-dbi.dylib:
>>>>>>  @executable_path/../Resources//lib/gnucash/libgncmod-backend-dbi.dylib 
>>>>>> (compatibility version 0.0.0, current version 0.0.0)
>>>>>>  @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libgnc-backend-sql.dylib 
>>>>>> (compatibility version 0.0.0, current version 0.0.0)
>>>>>>  @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libgnc-engine.dylib (compatibility 
>>>>>> version 0.0.0, current version 0.0.0)
>>>>>>  @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libdbi.3.dylib (compatibility version 
>>>>>> 4.0.0, current version 4.0.0)
>>>>>>  @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libgnc-core-utils.dylib 
>>>>>> (compatibility version 0.0.0, current version 0.0.0)
>>>>>>  @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libboost_regex.dylib (compatibility 
>>>>>> version 0.0.0, current version 0.0.0)
>>>>>>  @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libboost_date_time.dylib 
>>>>>> (compatibility version 0.0.0, current version 0.0.0)
>>>>>>  @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libicui18n.73.dylib (compatibility 
>>>>>> version 73.0.0, current version 73.2.0)
>>>>>>  @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libicuuc.73.dylib (compatibility 
>>>>>> version 73.0.0, current version 73.2.0)
>>>>>>  @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libicudata.73.dylib (compatibility 
>>>>>> version 73.0.0, current version 73.2.0)
>>>>>>  @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libgmodule-2.0.0.dylib (compatibility 
>>>>>> version 7601.0.0, current version 7601.3.0)
>>>>>>  @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libglib-2.0.0.dylib (compatibility 
>>>>>> version 7601.0.0, current version 7601.3.0)
>>>>>>  @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libintl.8.dylib (compatibility 
>>>>>> version 13.0.0, current version 13.0.0)
>>>>>>  @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libgobject-2.0.0.dylib (compatibility 
>>>>>> version 7601.0.0, current version 7601.3.0)
>>>>>>  /usr/lib/libc++.1.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 
>>>>>> 1300.36.0)
>>>>>>  /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current 
>>>>>> version 1319.0.0)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You can check that the application bundle is complete and matches its 
>>>>>> code signature with
>>>>>>  spctl —assess -vv /Applications/Gnucash.app
>>>>>> It should report
>>>>>>  /Applications/Gnucash.app/: accepted
>>>>>>  source=Notarized Developer ID
>>>>>>  origin=Developer ID Application: John D Ralls (Y9EHT5WMK7)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> John Ralls
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 

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