Thanks flywire!
That GitHub Pull Request link takes me to a comment from John Ralls that
very succinctly summarizes the difficulties of using GnuCash for larger
or more complex enterprises.
The rest of that comment is: "Adding those modules is a non-starter:
Consider that it's been 10 years since we began working on separating
libgnucash from the application, converting from GObject to C++, and
changing from a program that can load its data from a SQL database and
put it back to one that is built around SQL queries. We haven't gotten
very far.
Those seeking a F/LOSS accounting solution for larger enterprises should
look to Odoo <https://www.odoo.com>."
I had never heard of Odoo before I read that comment
(https://www.odoo.com/). From Odoo's website, I also found a small list
of accounting firms that use Odoo (19 are listed for the USA at
https://www.odoo.com/accounting-firms). Although that listing is
organized strangely to me, the firms are listed by "city, USA" NOT
"city, state, USA" or even "state, USA" and the US is a large country
with 50 states and 330+ million people, so there are many cities with
the same name... Regardless, some of the firms on that list may also be
interested in using GnuCash for "tiny & simple" enterprises, thus the
occasional requests for bookkeeping/accounting help for businesses that
use GnuCash may have some more leads available!
flywire: you mentioned that you use QuickBooks for business, have you
tried using Odoo?
For anyone else following this thread, but unsure as to exactly what GST
is, I'm assuming that we are talking about the tax concept (and not
likely the American version of GST) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GST
I'm sure that the GnuCash developers would appreciate any financial
support from anyone regularly using this software and/or asking for new
features/updates to be implemented/investigated
(https://gnucash.org/donate.phtml). For American taxpayers that itemize
their deductions, just keep in mind that GnuCash is not a 501c3
nonprofit, nor a fiscally sponsored project of an existing, registered
501c3 nonprofit
(https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2023-May/106798.html),
so those donations may not be tax deductible
(https://www.irs.gov/help/ita/can-i-deduct-my-charitable-contributions).
Brad
On 6/18/23 04:37, flywire wrote:
https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/pull/1623#issuecomment-1583966278
"GnuCash is for tiny and simple enterprises; we often say individuals and
sole proprietorships. Even having employees makes using GnuCash a dubious
proposition (no payroll module), as does carrying more than a very few line
items of inventory (no inventory module) or performing any sort of
manufacturing (no bill of materials or cost accounting modules)."
GnuCash supports GST for Accrual Accounting but not Cash Accounting, go
figure.
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I proposed a process for Cash Accounting with Automated GST:
https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2021-September/097666.html
TLDR; Automate GST for cash accounting by preprocessing transactions to
enrich with GST and import as a multisplit file
1. This isn't going to work on random transactions, you need to know which
accounts have GST
2. I already preprocess bank transactions in a spreadsheet before importing
but I haven't got around to splitting for GST (because I still use
QuickBooks for business)
3. I'd probably do the splits in python and integrate it into LibreOffice
Calc
If anyone is interested I'll work on it.
https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2023-June/107405.html R
Losey wrote:
You MIGHT be able to get fancy by getting the data into a spreadsheet,
having macros to assign the GST and travel categories, and then import the
spreadsheet into GnuCash.
https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2023-June/107404.html
Karl May wrote:
For my business setup I am wondering whether there is a way to
automatically
account for gst on small random purchases (e.g. hotel, restaurant etc.).
My current setup is roughly
Assets:financial_assets:bank_account
Assets:financial_assets:gst
Expense:travel
So far I haven't setup Accounts/payable and Accounts/receivable.
The current process is:
A) import bank account transactions via OFX into "bank_account" and
"imbalanced"
B) manually go through all transaction, use "split transaction",
manually
calculate the gst and assign amounts to Expense:travel and
Assets:financial_assets:gst.
Any suggestions how this can be automated such that the default is a
transaction split and application of a default GST rate?
Regards
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