Brad,
Whether they respond or not,  i can tell you for a fact that they support 
QFX/OFX downloads.



Sent from Samsung Galaxy smartphone.



-------- Original message --------
From: Brad Morrison <bradmorri...@sonic.net>
Date: 5/21/23 11:03 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: [GNC] OFX transactional data downloads from FDIC insured banks

Hi Stephen/Bob/Gyle/all,

Gyle: I emailed Bask Bank (customersupp...@baskbank.com), Presidential
Bank (em...@presidential.com), & CIT Bank (serv...@cit.com) on Thursday,
May 18 at about 7 PM PST and have not heard back from any of them yet
(CIT did send an automated response immediately). We will see what they
say.

Bob: I made a comment on Huntington Bank's Facebook page
(https://www.facebook.com/HuntingtonBank/) about 15 minutes ago because
they do not seem to have email customer service options on the Contact
Us page on their website
(https://www.huntington.com/customer-service/contact-us). We will see
what they say.

Stephen: you said "JP Morgan Chase Bank provides OFX/QFX format
downloads of Checking and Savings Accounts" do you mean
https://www.jpmorganchase.com/ or https://www.jpmorgan.com/global or
https://www.chase.com/ or something else? JPM is an enormous financial
institution (https://www.google.com/finance/quote/JPM:NYSE) and I don't
know where to direct my inquiries.

In addition, my understanding is that there is a difference between OFX
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Financial_Exchange) and QFX
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QFX_(file_format)), but it seems like
many people are lumping them together - ?

My standard ask goes something like this:

"Hi,

I use GnuCash (https://gnucash.org/), an open source accounting
software. Does ____ Bank allow transactional data to be downloaded in
the OFX file format
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Financial_Exchange &
https://financialdataexchange.org/ofx) or does ____Bank only allow
proprietary/patented/corporate file formats (like QFX, owned by Intuit)
for transactional data downloads?

Thank you,

Brad"

I changed the email subject title from the "Tax report options
(flywire)" one as the conversation only went in this direction and Alex
Aycinena,nor anyone else, added to what I was saying about the tax data
format options (see emails below).

Thank you for your help in this project!

Brad


On 5/19/23 12:41, Gyle McCollam wrote:
> Bob,
> You replied to me only.  I was replying to Brad.  You should use reply all so 
> that your reply goes to the list.
>
>
> Thank You,
>
> Gyle McCollam
>
> Gyle McCollam
>
> gmccol...@live.com<mailto:gmccol...@gyleshomes.com>            email
>
> ________________________________
> From: Bob Crochelt<rf...@fastmail.com>
> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2023 2:02 PM
> To: Gyle McCollam<gmccol...@live.com>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Tax report options (flywire)
>
> Hi:
> Huntington Bank offers OFX/QFX for checking and savings, but not AFAIK CD's.
> HTH
> Bob Crochelt
>
> On Thu, May 18, 2023 at 03:48:18PM +0000, Gyle McCollam wrote:
>> Brad,
>> As fr as banks with FDIC Insurance and OFX/QFX downloads, I can think of 3 
>> off the top of my head.  Presidential Bank in MD, good rate, but only on the 
>> 1st $25,000 in checking with conditions.  2nd, Bask Bank/Texas Capital, 
>> limited to 2 savings accounts and CDs.  Last. but not least CIT Bank (not 
>> CITI).  I'm sure there are many others and even if they only offer CSV 
>> downloads, that is almost as easy once you've done it once.
>>
>>
>> Thank You,
>>
>> Gyle McCollam
>>
>> Gyle McCollam
>>
>> gmccol...@live.com<mailto:gmccol...@gyleshomes.com>            email
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: gnucash-user<gnucash-user-bounces+gylemc=gmail....@gnucash.org>  on 
>> behalf of Brad Morrison<bradmorri...@sonic.net>
>> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2023 5:56 AM
>> To:gnucash-user@gnucash.org  <gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
>> Cc:fdxmemberservi...@financialdataexchange.org  
>> <fdxmemberservi...@financialdataexchange.org>;fdxsupp...@financialdataexchange.org
>>   <fdxsupp...@financialdataexchange.org>
>> Subject: Re: [GNC] Tax report options (flywire)
>>
>> Hi Alex/all,
>>
>> Thank you for the overarching explanations about how GnuCash Tax Report
>> Options work and some of the issues behind that.
>>
>> As I covered in my April 25 post
>> (https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2023-April/106671.html),
>> I have been trying to find US based FDIC insured banks that allow for
>> transactional data to be downloaded in the OFX file format
>> (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Financial_Exchange). I have still
>> not been able to find any that do, so I dug a bit deeper (the ICBA and
>> several other banking associations did not respond to my inquiries) and
>> noticed that the Financial Data Exchange group that hosts the "OFX Work
>> Group" (https://financialdataexchange.org/ofx) seems to be quite out of
>> date (copyright date at the bottom lists 2020 as the year, 2019 is the
>> last date on the timeline, etc.). The Financial Data Exchange homepage
>> (https://financialdataexchange.org/) looks better maintained and seems
>> to have several news items from the last month, but also has that 2020
>> copyright date at the bottom. FDX also has this Tax Data Exchange
>> section
>> (https://financialdataexchange.org/FDX/FDX/US-Tax/US-Tax-Forms.aspx?hkey=00bae613-7ec8-4c93-8e37-4712f09ae255)
>> under the "Resources" tab, but it also looks a bit stale. You may be
>> able to parse the technical information there better than I can, but it
>> might be worth a look as that Tax Data Exchange page also seems to
>> acknowledge what you are saying about TXF code being abandoned
>> ("Standards-based JSON files are superior to both CSV and TXF files CSV
>> files require proprietary programs to process. Documentation and support
>> of the TXF standard has dwindled and has now been fully-replaced by new
>> standards.")
>>
>> I do not know if GnuCash is already a member of FDX, but that maybe
>> something to consider...?
>>
>> Brad
>>
>> On 5/17/23 12:08, Alex Aycinena wrote:
>>> On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 9:00 AM<gnucash-user-requ...@gnucash.org>   wrote:
>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> From: flywire<flywi...@gmail.com>
>>>> To: Gnucash Users<gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
>>>> Cc:
>>>> Bcc:
>>>> Date: Wed, 17 May 2023 17:17:45 +1000
>>>> Subject: Re: [GNC] Tax report options
>>>> https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2023-May/107018.html
>>>> flywire wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It is a spreadsheet process to add share/franking credits to etf/franking
>>>>> credits (Distribution:13Q) and similar for capital gains
>>>>> (Distribution:18H:18A) since the components are the same tax item. Any
>>>>> thoughts of how I could sum them in reports from different account trees?
>>>>>
>>>> lol In the heat of the moment preparing tax I'd never thought of just
>>>> transferring the total to the main account for that item.
>>>>
>>>> https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2023-May/107020.html
>>>> flywire wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ...there are 13 annual returns
>>>>>
>>>> To be clear, the items on the return map to different tax codes, eg
>>>> franking credits is 13Q on a personal return and 8D on a trust return. I'd
>>>> expect a table would need to be maintained for each return type. Australian
>>>> codes hardly change over time which likely means there would be no active
>>>> maintenance.
>>>>
>>>> Is it as simple as just using a unique tax code as account code and then
>>>> reporting by account code? (Assume one return type.)
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Some questions have been asked about  Tax Report Options in the past couple
>>> of weeks. I have been away and not able to respond or make comments. Let me
>>> make these points, which may not necessarily apply to this thread, but to
>>> others (sorry):
>>>
>>> - The Tax Report Options and associated US Income Tax Report are only
>>> intended to be used for US Income Taxes.
>>>
>>> - Some time ago, someone in Germany used the US version and made
>>> adjustments for use in Germany; I'm not familiar with that and don't know
>>> if it works and is being maintained.
>>>
>>> - Initially it was intended primarily to generate a file that could be
>>> uploaded to Income Tax Preparation software (and a report was sort of
>>> secondary) and so a key element of the design was the use of TXF codes that
>>> the Tax software could understand; the specification for those codes was
>>> abandoned some time ago so the ability to expand the system is not there
>>> unless we invented our own new TXF code (ugh!).
>>>
>>> - That is why there is nothing for Form 1116.
>>>
>>> - If someone wanted to do what was done for Germany for another
>>> jurisdiction, they would have to deal with this TXF issue; I certainly
>>> don't recommend trying it.
>>>
>>> - The US version could/should be re-written to not depend on TXF codes but
>>> this would not be trivial.
>>>
>>> - One can use the 'No Tax code' tag to include accounts on the US Income
>>> Tax Report, just not sorted by Form/Schedule; you could use the account
>>> name and/or description for that purpose for those accounts to give you
>>> totals (example: for Form 1116).
>>>
>>> - The system assumes that each 'book' (i.e., gnucash file) is for one
>>> reporting entity (individual, partnership, corporation, etc.) and that one
>>> file is not used to track the accounts of more than one tax
>>> reporting entity.
>>>
>>> - You can certainly use your account structure design and other available
>>> reports to get your tax information without using this system; in fact, if
>>> you use this system, you have to carefully design your account structure
>>> and do careful data entry to get the report to be useful.
>>>
>>> Alex
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