I think it may be TIMING which is confusing it - - - like this: Keep in mind the basic fact that a Balance Sheet measures Assets Liabilities + Equity as of a specific MOMENT - a POINT - in time. But Income and Expense can only be measured OVER A PERIOD of time, since they are MOVEMENTS of things of value. They can only be non-zero over a PERIOD of elapsed time. They are, by definition, zero, at every single MOMENT or POINT in time. So A-L = EQ at every point in time. This is always so because by definition these measurements (Assets, Liabilities, Equity) include all Inc + Exp which have been recorded in all periods BEFORE that MOMENT or POINT in time. If you understand this, then perhaps you can see that dealing correctly with TIMING is crucial, when you try to draw non-zero Inc+Exp into the Balance Sheet equation - - because the equation deals only with MOMENTS or POINTS in time. So: Starting with A-L=EQ (balance sheet) measured at the BEGINNING of a PERIOD ... You can only measure and add Inc + Exp recorded OVER a period (which can be something more than zero ONLY over a period). When you DO add Inc+Exp measured over a period, then you must "update" the balance sheet tally's (A, L, EQ) to the END of that period, in order for the balance sheet to still balance. And when you do update A, L + EQ to the end of that period, by definition Inc+Exp are zero AS OF THAT NEW END POINT in time ... because these can only exist and be measured OVER A PERIOD of time. So then going back to your original construction of the question: (A+L) =/= [not equal] EQ+ (Inc+Exp) ... This "still works" when you add or "force" non-zero Income + Expense into the equation, ONLY when you deal logically and correctly with the timing of that Inc+Exp: (Assets-Liabilities at the END of a period) ... DOES in fact equal ... [ (Equity at the BEGINNING of a period) + (Income - Expense OVER that period) ] So to summarize: the only way to add or include non-zero Inc+Exp into the Balance Sheet equation, is: 1. to recognize the fact that Assets Liabilities + Equity are measured AT A POINT in time, 2. while Income and Expense are measured OVER A PERIOD of time ... 3. then to re-construct or adjust the balance sheet equation with the Asset, Liability, and Equity measurements at points in time that are logically consistent with the period of time over which the Income+Expense (which you're trying to add to this equation) were measured. This has logical integrity to it, so it keeps the equation balanced. That is ... TIMING is the crucial "new" piece that you need to deal with, as soon as you try to incorporate non-zero Inc + Exp into the Balance Sheet equation. Hope this helps. Chris __________________________________________________________________
From: [1]gnucash-user-requ...@gnucash.org Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022, 12:00 PM To: [2]gnucash-user@gnucash.org Subject: gnucash-user Digest, Vol 233, Issue 86 Message: 1 Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2022 17:38:03 -0500 From: "W. Neal Lewis" [3]<wnle...@southwind.net> To: [4]gnucash-user@gnucash.org Subject: [GNC] Can someone tell me how A-L=Eq+(I-Ex) is correct? Message-ID: [5]<75b5c885-4b07-d1e3-ccf3-6b5fb39cf...@southwind.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed I will agree that by mathematical logic, Assets-(Liabilities)=Equity. ? Assets+(Liabilites)-(Liabilities)=Equity+Liability, or stated more simply, A=Eq+L. I have added Liability to both sides ? both sides remain equal. However, although (A+L)=Eq, (A+L) =/= Eq+(Inc+Exp). I have added a term to the right side that is most decidedly not on the left therefor they cannot be equal. Therefor A and L must be terms that include other factors. Not good at accounting, I will ask what those other factors are. I want to use GnuCash but I am having trouble getting my mind to accept an equation that is not correct unless terms are redefined. Please help me with my (obviously) incorrect understandings. Thank you, Neal Lewis References 1. mailto:gnucash-user-requ...@gnucash.org 2. mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org 3. mailto:wnle...@southwind.net 4. mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org 5. mailto:75b5c885-4b07-d1e3-ccf3-6b5fb39cf...@southwind.net _______________________________________________ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user ----- Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.