At Mon, 9 May 2022 11:19:48 -0500 adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net wrote: > > If I recall correctly, the original plan was to stop 32-binaries & > installers for 18.04, but the outcry resulted in a back-track. > (thankfully, too many good machines in perfect working order out there, > I manage several.) > > The big push was Steam, but there were some other libraries that needed > to continue 32-bit support. Canonical then realized they could continue > to provide builds, sans stand-alone installers, but with the caveat that > they won't take bug reports because they got rid of (or have a lack of) > the physical hardware for testing. I think there are some core packages > and libraries they try to continue to patch and support however.
There is *probably* little in the way of 32-bit *specific* bugs at this point. And since there is no new 32-bit *specific* hardware, there are not going to be new kernel drivers for 32-bit *specific* hardware -- any new kernel driver issues will be for 64-bit hardware. (Probably the only exception to this is for 32-bit *arm* processors, but that is something completely different.) What bugs that are showing up are not word-size specific, so it is just a matter of automated re-builds for all supported arches. And the builds and Q/A can be done on generic 32-bit VMs. > > I could almost bet that I installed 18.04 with fresh 32-bit installers, > but I could be misremembering. Misremembering. You probably did a do-release-upgrade from 16.04. > > Regards, > Adrien > > On 5/9/22 7:48 AM, Robert Heller wrote: > > *I* know for sure that Ubuntu 18.04 will run on a 32-bit machine (I have it > > on > > a VM). > > > > The deal is this: Ubuntu no longer provides *installers* for 32-bit > > machines > > -- I believe 16.04 is the last version of Ubuntu that includes installer / > > live CD ISOs for 32-bit machines. Once you have a 32-bit version installed, > > you can always do a 'do-release-upgrade' on that 32-bit machine and it will > > upgrade to the next release -- on a 32-bit Ubuntu 16.04, do-release-upgrade > > will get you Ubuntu 18.04, then doing it again (after rebooting), you will > > have a 32-bit version of 20.04, and then doing it yet again, you will have > > 22.04, still 32-bit. I don't know if (when?) Ubuntu will stop building > > 32-bit > > binaries -- I suspect that as long as there remain support for 32-bit in the > > kernel and as long as gcc supports compiling for a 32-bit target, you will > > be > > able to upgrade a 32-bit machine. The only really issue is what happens > > when > > certain critical parts for that 32-bit machine stop being available. OTOH, > > the only really 32-bit parts (CPU, motherboard, and memory) could last > > indefinately -- the only parts that will wear out would be some of the > > capacitors on the motherboard, which could be replaced. It should even be > > possible to replace the CPU fan. I don't know if there are BIOS issues with > > very large disks or if there will be some sort of "brick wall" issue with a > > 32-bit kernel dealing with ginormous disks -- I suspect that even a 32-bit > > kernel will have no trouble a 1KT drives, but by then the issue will be > > whether or not a it makes sense to get a hover mod for your Ford model A... > > :-) > > > > > > At Mon, 09 May 2022 08:02:00 -0400 "David T." <sunfis...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > >> > >> Jonathan, > >> > >> I'm not a Linux person, but a search online turned up > >> > >> https://askubuntu.com/questions/768415/where-can-i-find-32-bit-version-of-ubuntu > >> > >> Which suggested that 18.04 was available for 32-bit: > >> > >> https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/18.04.5/release/xubuntu-18.04.5-desktop-i386.iso > >> > >> I also found: > >> > >> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1376090/latest-version-of-ubuntu-for-i386-architecture-32-bit > >> > >> Which links to: > >> > >> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/bionic-updates/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/ > >> > >> But I don't profess to understand the contents at that second link. I > >> leave it to you to sort it out. > >> > >> According to the Gnucash wiki, 18.04 has 2.6.19. Such an upgrade might be > >> a major undertaking... > >> > >> David > >> > >> On May 9, 2022 12:19:28 AM EDT, Jonathan Francoeur <goedi...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >>> Hi David.ÃÂâÂÂÃÂàThank you for asking.ÃÂâÂÂÃÂàI am > >>> using Linux Lite, Ubuntu 16.04 and GNU Cash 2.6.12 on the older > >>> machine.ÃÂâÂÂÃÂàAs far as I know, I can not install any newer > >>> version of Ubuntu on this 32bit machine. > >>> > >>> Hi Adrien.ÃÂâÂÂÃÂàI'm kinda scared of attempting to build a > >>> newer version of GNU Cash without knowing that someone else has done so > >>> successfully.ÃÂâÂÂÃÂàI'm not that good with computers and the > >>> list of dependencies looks daunting to me.ÃÂâÂÂÃÂàThank you > >>> for your suggestions none the less. > >>> > >>> On 3/25/22 4:25 AM, David T. via gnucash-user wrote: > >>>> I think it would be helpful to know a bit more about the versions of > >>>> Gnucash on the two machines. The message he got was that he needed *at > >>>> least* 2.6.19, not that he needed to use it. > >>>> > >>>> Jonathan, does this imply that your older machine is running Ubuntu > >>>> 16.04? The Gnucash wiki says that 16.04 had 2.6.12, while 18.04 had > >>>> 2.6.19. The vintage of Ubuntu might affect your options here. > >>>> > >>>> And if your older system has a version greater than 2.6.19 on it, > >>>> something else has gone wrong, and more info would be needed. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On March 24, 2022 9:20:25 PM EDT, Adrien Monteleone > >>>> <adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote: > >>>>> Caveat: > >>>>> > >>>>> You can have some dependency issues on that old machine that might > >>>>> prevent building the current version or using Flatpak. > >>>>> > >>>>> I'd think you *should* be able to build 2.6.19 or 2.6.21 though. (2.6.21 > >>>>> was the last 2.6 version) > >>>>> > >>>>> Please do report back what you are able to accomplish. > >>>>> > >>>>> If nothing works, consider possibly using RDP or VNC to your 64bit > >>>>> machine rather than a local install. > >>>>> > >>>>> Regards, > >>>>> Adrien > >>>>> > >>>>> On 3/24/22 8:00 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > >>>>>> Jonathan, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> You should be able to build a current version of Gnucash on your 32bit > >>>>>> machine. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> See the instructions here: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Building > >>>>>> > >>>>>> And you can update to current on your 64bit machine to match. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> You might also be able to use the Flatpak if you don't want to build. > >>>>>> (I'd try that first) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>> Adrien > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 3/23/22 2:52 AM, Jonathan Francoeur wrote: > >>>>>>> I have my accounts in dropbox and I was using a newer version of GNU > >>>>>>> cash on my 64bit computer.ÃÂâÂÂÃÂàNow I"m trying to use > >>>>>>> the files on my > >>>>>>> older 32bit computer and I get the error: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> This Dataset contains features not supported by this version of > >>>>>>> GnuCash. You must use a newer version of GnuCash in order to support > >>>>>>> the following features: > >>>>>>> * Use account GUID as key for bayesian data and store KVP flat > >>>>>>> (requires at least Gnucash 2.6.19) > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I have not been able to install the Gnucash 2.6.19 from the tar.gz > >>>>>>> files.ÃÂâÂÂÃÂàI'm used to using .deb files on following > >>>>>>> instructions by copy > >>>>>>> pasting in to the terminal.ÃÂâÂÂÃÂàI haven't found > >>>>>>> anything like that for > >>>>>>> installing a newer version on GNU cash on a 32bit linux > >>>>>>> machine.ÃÂâÂÂÃÂàAny > >>>>>>> ideas? > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> gnucash-user mailing list > >>>>>> gnucash-user@gnucash.org > >>>>>> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > >>>>>> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > >>>>>> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > >>>>>> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > >>>>>> ----- > >>>>>> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > >>>>>> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> gnucash-user mailing list > >>>>> gnucash-user@gnucash.org > >>>>> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > >>>>> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > >>>>> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > >>>>> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > >>>>> ----- > >>>>> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > >>>>> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> gnucash-user mailing list > >>>> gnucash-user@gnucash.org > >>>> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > >>>> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > >>>> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > >>>> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > >>>> ----- > >>>> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > >>>> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > >> _______________________________________________ > >> gnucash-user mailing list > >> gnucash-user@gnucash.org > >> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > >> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > >> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > >> ----- > >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > >> > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > gnucash-user mailing list > > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > > ----- > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > _______________________________________________ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > ----- > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > -- Robert Heller -- Cell: 413-658-7953 GV: 978-633-5364 Deepwoods Software -- Custom Software Services http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Linux Administration Services hel...@deepsoft.com -- Webhosting Services
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