At Mon, 9 May 2022 11:19:48 -0500 adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net wrote:

> 
> If I recall correctly, the original plan was to stop 32-binaries & 
> installers for 18.04, but the outcry resulted in a back-track. 
> (thankfully, too many good machines in perfect working order out there, 
> I manage several.)
> 
> The big push was Steam, but there were some other libraries that needed 
> to continue 32-bit support. Canonical then realized they could continue 
> to provide builds, sans stand-alone installers, but with the caveat that 
> they won't take bug reports because they got rid of (or have a lack of) 
> the physical hardware for testing. I think there are some core packages 
> and libraries they try to continue to patch and support however.

There is *probably* little in the way of 32-bit *specific* bugs at this point. 
And since there is no new 32-bit *specific* hardware, there are not going to 
be new kernel drivers for 32-bit *specific* hardware -- any new kernel driver 
issues will be for 64-bit hardware.  (Probably the only exception to this is 
for 32-bit *arm* processors, but that is something completely different.)

What bugs that are showing up are not word-size specific, so it is just a 
matter of automated re-builds for all supported arches.  And the builds and 
Q/A can be done on generic 32-bit VMs.

> 
> I could almost bet that I installed 18.04 with fresh 32-bit installers, 
> but I could be misremembering.

Misremembering.  You probably did a do-release-upgrade from 16.04.

> 
> Regards,
> Adrien
> 
> On 5/9/22 7:48 AM, Robert Heller wrote:
> > *I* know for sure that Ubuntu 18.04 will run on a 32-bit machine (I have it 
> > on
> > a VM).
> > 
> > The deal is this:  Ubuntu no longer provides *installers* for 32-bit 
> > machines
> > -- I believe 16.04 is the last version of Ubuntu that includes installer /
> > live CD ISOs for 32-bit machines.  Once you have a 32-bit version installed,
> > you can always do a 'do-release-upgrade' on that 32-bit machine and it will
> > upgrade to the next release -- on a 32-bit Ubuntu 16.04, do-release-upgrade
> > will get you Ubuntu 18.04, then doing it again (after rebooting), you will
> > have a 32-bit version of 20.04, and then doing it yet again, you will have
> > 22.04, still 32-bit.  I don't know if (when?) Ubuntu will stop building 
> > 32-bit
> > binaries -- I suspect that as long as there remain support for 32-bit in the
> > kernel and as long as gcc supports compiling for a 32-bit target, you will 
> > be
> > able to upgrade a 32-bit machine.  The only really issue is what happens 
> > when
> > certain critical parts for that 32-bit machine stop being available.  OTOH,
> > the only really 32-bit parts (CPU, motherboard, and memory) could last
> > indefinately -- the only parts that will wear out would be some of the
> > capacitors on the motherboard, which could be replaced.  It should even be
> > possible to replace the CPU fan.  I don't know if there are BIOS issues with
> > very large disks or if there will be some sort of "brick wall" issue with a
> > 32-bit kernel dealing with ginormous disks -- I suspect that even a 32-bit
> > kernel will have no trouble a 1KT drives, but by then the issue will be
> > whether or not a it makes sense to get a hover mod for your Ford model A...
> > :-)
> > 
> > 
> > At Mon, 09 May 2022 08:02:00 -0400 "David T." <sunfis...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > 
> >>
> >> Jonathan,
> >>
> >> I'm not a Linux person, but a search online turned up
> >>
> >> https://askubuntu.com/questions/768415/where-can-i-find-32-bit-version-of-ubuntu
> >>
> >> Which suggested that 18.04 was available for 32-bit:
> >>
> >> https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/18.04.5/release/xubuntu-18.04.5-desktop-i386.iso
> >>
> >> I also found:
> >>
> >> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1376090/latest-version-of-ubuntu-for-i386-architecture-32-bit
> >>
> >> Which links to:
> >>
> >> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/bionic-updates/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/
> >>
> >> But I don't profess to understand the contents at that second link. I 
> >> leave it to you to sort it out.
> >>
> >> According to the Gnucash wiki, 18.04 has  2.6.19. Such an upgrade might be 
> >> a major undertaking...
> >>
> >> David
> >>
> >> On May 9, 2022 12:19:28 AM EDT, Jonathan Francoeur <goedi...@gmail.com> 
> >> wrote:
> >>> Hi David.  Thank you for asking.  I am 
> >>> using Linux Lite, Ubuntu 16.04 and GNU Cash 2.6.12 on the older 
> >>> machine.  As far as I know, I can not install any newer 
> >>> version of Ubuntu on this 32bit machine.
> >>>
> >>> Hi Adrien.  I'm kinda scared of attempting to build a 
> >>> newer version of GNU Cash without knowing that someone else has done so 
> >>> successfully.  I'm not that good with computers and the 
> >>> list of dependencies looks daunting to me.  Thank you 
> >>> for your suggestions none the less.
> >>>
> >>> On 3/25/22 4:25 AM, David T. via gnucash-user wrote:
> >>>> I think it would be helpful to know a bit more about the versions of 
> >>>> Gnucash on the two machines. The message he got was that he needed *at 
> >>>> least* 2.6.19, not that he needed to use it.
> >>>>
> >>>> Jonathan, does this imply that your older machine is running Ubuntu 
> >>>> 16.04? The Gnucash wiki says that 16.04 had 2.6.12, while 18.04 had 
> >>>> 2.6.19. The vintage of Ubuntu might affect your options here.
> >>>>
> >>>> And if your older system has a version greater than 2.6.19 on it, 
> >>>> something else has gone wrong, and more info would be needed.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On March 24, 2022 9:20:25 PM EDT, Adrien Monteleone 
> >>>> <adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:
> >>>>> Caveat:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You can have some dependency issues on that old machine that might
> >>>>> prevent building the current version or using Flatpak.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'd think you *should* be able to build 2.6.19 or 2.6.21 though. (2.6.21
> >>>>> was the last 2.6 version)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Please do report back what you are able to accomplish.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If nothing works, consider possibly using RDP or VNC to your 64bit
> >>>>> machine rather than a local install.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards,
> >>>>> Adrien
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 3/24/22 8:00 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
> >>>>>> Jonathan,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> You should be able to build a current version of Gnucash on your 32bit
> >>>>>> machine.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> See the instructions here:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Building
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> And you can update to current on your 64bit machine to match.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> You might also be able to use the Flatpak if you don't want to build.
> >>>>>> (I'd try that first)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>> Adrien
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 3/23/22 2:52 AM, Jonathan Francoeur wrote:
> >>>>>>> I have my accounts in dropbox and I was using a newer version of GNU
> >>>>>>> cash on my 64bit computer.  Now I"m trying to use 
> >>>>>>> the files on my
> >>>>>>> older 32bit computer and I get the error:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> This Dataset contains features not supported by this version of
> >>>>>>> GnuCash. You must use a newer version of GnuCash in order to support
> >>>>>>> the following features:
> >>>>>>> * Use account GUID as key for bayesian data and store KVP flat
> >>>>>>> (requires at least Gnucash 2.6.19)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I have not been able to install the Gnucash 2.6.19 from the tar.gz
> >>>>>>> files.  I'm used to using .deb files on following 
> >>>>>>> instructions by copy
> >>>>>>> pasting in to the terminal.  I haven't found 
> >>>>>>> anything like that for
> >>>>>>> installing a newer version on GNU cash on a 32bit linux 
> >>>>>>> machine.  Any
> >>>>>>> ideas?
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