On 2020-09-12 19:26, Michael or Penny Novack wrote:

ToddAndMargo, I don't know what to conclude from what you are saying. One sentence seems to show you understand that GnuCash only reaches you by lots of people doing lots of things. The next sentence seems to show you having a tremendous sense of entitlement to getting something for nothing, and blaming the generous people who give you 10 gifts when you don't get the 11th gift you want.

I am going to jump in here because I am old enough to have been around for the original discussions out of which "free software" movement came.

a) First of all, it was in rebellion to high priced software under restrictive license. It was NOT about "make software free as in free lunch".

b) The rallying cry was "software for the price of a book" (and by book, being academics, they pictured like the price of a college text, not trivial)

c) The LICENSE was to be free. If anybody wanted to compile the source code and give away free copies, they could do that. Somebody still could SELL copies. Of course they couldn't charge more than fair or somebody would do it cheaper or for free. Even for the open source code itself could be charged a "reasonable fee for supplying a copy on standard medium" << remember, no free downloads from the internet in those days >> And that was just the SOURCE CODE. Perfectly OK for somebody to charge you for a compiled executable you could run on your machine << remember, at this time almost every machine had specific assemblers/compilers, far less standardization  than in recent decades>>

d) These were people who expected to make their livings from software. What is the outrage about? Nobody promised you FREE SUPPORT along with the free software. Nothing against selling you a book "how to use software app X". Or for debugging your problems.

e) Your entitlement (under free software rules) is JUST a free copy of the source code << now should be free as in free lunch because of downloads >> You are NOT (actually) entitled to an executable for your machine  or its installer for free, though that is customary nowadays since developers don't need to supply very many versions.

Michael D Novack

PS: And here I am not doing my bit to help development. But that's because spoiled by my working days when clients who wanted something were willing to put in their share of the work. I've seen lots of "I want this or that" but when challenged "OK, I'll design.code, test, but FIRST you commit to the "requirements meetings" << unless what software is SUPPOSED TO DO is fully defined I won't touch it >> and commit to the testing process. No? Then forget it.

Hi Michael,

Great exposition!

I use Fedora in my business.  It is a wonderful example of
"Kaisen", meaning constant improvement.  I am totally spoiled
by their responsiveness to users, including me.  I presume
"someone" is paying them, but I do not know where they are
getting their funding.  I certainly an not put one more
person on my payroll.

Folks do not understand that Open Source is not free.  If
the funding is not there, there is only so much a "volunteer"
can do.  At some point, they need to be paid for their work.
This means in some projects, a lot of stuff does not get
worked on, Kaisen stops, and a project spirals down.  The
only thing that gets worked on are those things the
"volunteers" need.  They are a victim of their own
economic model.

"In general", I find open source to be of higher quality
than paid software.  There are notable exceptions.

Gnu Cash has one of the steepest learning curves I have come
across, but if you put the work into learning it, it shines.
I almost pulled all my hair out learning it. Boy did it
even come through doing my business taxes.

-T


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