Samantha,

So Finance::Quote is correctly installed. Maybe GnuCash isn't finding perl. Run 
the following in Poweshell:
 [Environment]::GetEnvironmentVariable('PATH', 'MACHINE')
Make sure that it lists the correct Strawberry Perl path. Those square brackets 
around Environment are part of the command.

Next, start GnuCash from Powershell as follows:
  & 'C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\bin\gnucash.exe' --log gnc.scm=debug 
--nofile
Just quit when it finishes starting. Find the most recent trace file
  Get-ChildItem -Path $Env:USERPROFILE\AppData\Local\Temp -filter 
gnucash.trace.* | Sort-Object -Property Date
and display it (substitute the most recent file name from your listing)
  Get-Content $Env:USERPROFILE\AppData\Local\Temp\gnucash.trace.RSHPO0.log

Regards,
John Ralls

> On Aug 8, 2020, at 6:00 AM, Samantha Payn <saman...@boorertranslations.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> John, thank you for these corrections. In Powershell they brought results as 
> below: 
> 
> PS C:\Users\User> cd "C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\bin\"
> PS C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\bin> $Env:ALPHAVANTAGE_API_KEY = " APIKEY"
> PS C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\bin> perl 'c:\Program Files 
> (x86)\gnucash\bin\gnc-fq-dump' currency USD GBP
> 1 USD = 0.76587 GBP
> PS C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\bin> perl 'c:\Program Files 
> (x86)\gnucash\bin\gnc-fq-dump' currency EUR GBP
> 1 EUR = 0.9031 GBP
> PS C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\bin>
> (In the CMD window I still had a syntax error, but let's just carry on with 
> Powershell).
> 
> But Gnucash still doesn't fetch the rate for me.
> 
> And by the way I love the predictive text infill - such a time saver!
> 
> Best regards
> 
> Samantha
> 
>> On 7 August 2020 20:08 John Ralls < jra...@ceridwen.us> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Samantha,
>> 
>> Pardon the inlining:
>>> On Aug 7, 2020, at 6:00 AM, Samantha Payn < 
>>> saman...@boorertranslations.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> John, I appreciate why you wish to keep this on list and so thank you and 
>>> everyone for your patience while I stumble through.
>>> Sorry but I am such a beginner with CMD and Powershell environment that 
>>> initially I took your references to CMD and Powershell as part of the code 
>>> I should be typing.
>>> Background: running Windows 10 home, regularly updated. Updated to the most 
>>> recent version of Gnucash: Gnucash Version: 4.1, Build ID: 
>>> 4.1+(2020-07-25), Finance::Quote: 1.49. Problem started when I changed my 
>>> PC and reinstalled gnucash. Prior to this I had been using Gnucash for 
>>> transactions in three currencies without problem.
>>> Now, when posting invoices in “foreign” currency the Get Quotes button 
>>> lights up, but when I click it I get an error window that says: "There was 
>>> a system error while retrieving the price quotes". The invoice then appears 
>>> to be posted but I have no confidence the currency exchange has been 
>>> handled correctly.
>>> 
>>> These are the results I get from following John’s guidance for testing:
>>> In powershell window:
>>> PS C:\Users\User> cd "C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\bin\"
>>> PS C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\bin> $Env:ALPHAVANTAGE_API_KEY = " APIKEY"
>>> PS C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\bin> perl 'c:\Program Files 
>>> (x86)\gnucash\bin\gnc-fq-dump currency' USD GBP
>> ____^____
>> The marked quote is in the wrong place. It needs to go at the end of dump, 
>> as in ...gnc-fq-dump' currency USD GBP
>> 
>>> Can't open perl script "c:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\bin\gnc-fq-dump 
>>> currency": No such file or directory
>> So that Windows doesn't think that it's part of the perl script's name.
>> 
>> 
>>> PS C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\bin>
>>> Type is variously yellow (cd, perl), lime green ($Env:ALPHAVANTAGE_API_KEY 
>>> ) and sea green (after the lime green text) or white at the start of each 
>>> line.
>>> 
>>> In CMD window:
>>> C:\Users\User>cd C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\bin
>>> C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\bin>set ALPHAVANTAGE_API_KEY <APIKEY>
>>> The syntax of the command is incorrect.
>> Sorry, that should be
>> set ALPHAVANTAGE_API_KEY=<APIKEY>
>> 
>> Note no spaces between the variable name, equal sign, and value.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> John Ralls
>>> In an effort not to mistype anything I mostly copy and paste from John's 
>>> guidance.
>>> I will attempt to follow up on any advice given from now on more promptly 
>>> and thanks in advance for all assistance offered.
>>> Samantha
>>>> On 7 August 2020 00:56 John Ralls < jra...@ceridwen.us> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Samantha,
>>>> 
>>>> I'd prefer to keep everything on the list. I'm not regularly a Windows 
>>>> user and someone who is might be able to chime in with more help.
>>>> 
>>>> I think you have a CMD shell there rather than a Powershell. Powershell 
>>>> would color $Env:ALPHAVANTAGE_API_KEY bright green no matter what else you 
>>>> typed and it puts a space between the prompt and your input. CMD doesn't 
>>>> color anything and doesn't separate the prompt from the input with a 
>>>> space. To set an environment variable in CMD you do
>>>> SET ALPHAVANTAGE_API_KEY <your key>
>>>> making the obvious substitution. No quotes are needed, and the angle 
>>>> braces are part of the substitution.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> John Ralls
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 5, 2020, at 2:17 AM, Samantha Payn < 
>>>>> saman...@boorertranslations.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi John
>>>>> Sorry for my lengthy silence. I have attempted to follow your 
>>>>> instructions but so far without success.
>>>>> This is as far as I have got:
>>>>> C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\bin>$Env:ALPHAVANTAGE_API_KEY = "[my 
>>>>> alphavantage key"
>>>>> The filename, directory name, or volume label syntax is incorrect.
>>>>> All text in white.
>>>>> If you are willing to help me further, John, perhaps we should take this 
>>>>> off the mailing list as at the moment the problems are with my 
>>>>> inexperience in the Powershell environment, rather than with gnucash 
>>>>> itself?
>>>>> Many thanks for your assistance so far and hoping for your continued 
>>>>> patience.
>>>>> Samantha
>>>>>> On 27 July 2020 20:16 John Ralls < jra...@ceridwen.us> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Samantha,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regardless of the shell you must enclose paths with spaces in quotes, 
>>>>>> e.g.
>>>>>> cd "c:\Program Files (86)\gnucash\bin"
>>>>>> You can use ' instead of " if you like. You can also start typing and 
>>>>>> use tab completion, for example type
>>>>>> cd c:\prog<TAB>
>>>>>> and the shell will change it to
>>>>>> cd 'C:\Program Files\'
>>>>>> You can then backspace out the \', type a space and <TAB> again and it 
>>>>>> will fill in the (x86)\' for you.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> John Ralls
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jul 27, 2020, at 12:01 PM, Samantha Payn < 
>>>>>>> saman...@boorertranslations.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sorry John (and everyone). I can't get it to accept (x86) now:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> C:\Users\User> cd C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\bin
>>>>>>> x86 : The term 'x86' is not recognized as the name of a cmdlet, 
>>>>>>> function, script file, or operable program.
>>>>>>> Check the spelling of the name, or if a path was included, verify that 
>>>>>>> the path is correct and try again.
>>>>>>> At line:1 char:22
>>>>>>> + cd C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\bin
>>>>>>> + ~~~
>>>>>>> + CategoryInfo : ObjectNotFound: (x86:String) [], 
>>>>>>> CommandNotFoundException
>>>>>>> + FullyQualifiedErrorId : CommandNotFoundException
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So sorry. Instead of bothering you guys should I try to get local help?
>>>>>>> Best wishes and thanks again
>>>>>>> Samantha
>>>>>>>> On 27 July 2020 19:30 John Ralls < jra...@ceridwen.us> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Samantha,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sorry I wasn't more explicit: Yes, each command is a line on its own, 
>>>>>>>> followed by <Return>. You need to use quotes around your API key, so
>>>>>>>> $Env:ALPHAVANTAGE_API_KEY = "[my API key]"
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I see that I left off the second quote in the perl command line, it 
>>>>>>>> should be
>>>>>>>> perl 'c:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\bin\gnc-fq-dump currency' USD GBP
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The Powershell terminal color-codes errors in red on black, variables 
>>>>>>>> and special values (e.g. $true, $false) in green, and command names in 
>>>>>>>> yellow.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> John Ralls
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 27, 2020, at 2:30 AM, Samantha Payn < 
>>>>>>>>> saman...@boorertranslations.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi John
>>>>>>>>> I am sorry to have to come back to you for more support on this and 
>>>>>>>>> thanks again for your patience.
>>>>>>>>> After some fumbling (am I right that I should type each line you have 
>>>>>>>>> typed followed by the "Enter" key? I really am that much of a newb at 
>>>>>>>>> this), I got an error message in red type as follows:
>>>>>>>>> [my API key] : The term '[my API key]' is not recognized as the name 
>>>>>>>>> of a cmdlet, function,
>>>>>>>>> script file, or operable program. Check the spelling of the name, or 
>>>>>>>>> if a path was included, verify
>>>>>>>>> that the path is correct and try again.
>>>>>>>>> At line:1 char:29
>>>>>>>>> + $Env:ALPHAVANTAGE_API_KEY = [my API key]
>>>>>>>>> + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>>>> + CategoryInfo : ObjectNotFound: ([my API key]:String) [], 
>>>>>>>>> CommandNotFoundException
>>>>>>>>> + FullyQualifiedErrorId : CommandNotFoundException
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> (In the text above I have switched out my 16 digit API key for the 
>>>>>>>>> words "[my API key]").
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Please also explain what the significance of green and yellow text is 
>>>>>>>>> in this environment.
>>>>>>>>> Many thanks
>>>>>>>>> Samantha
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 25 July 2020 20:04 John Ralls < jra...@ceridwen.us> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Samantha,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Powershell (Admin) just means Powershell with admin privilege. 
>>>>>>>>>> Starting it will raise a User Authorization Escalation dialog box 
>>>>>>>>>> asking if you're sure that you want Powershell to "make changes to 
>>>>>>>>>> your device". You don't need it for this test, plain Powershell is 
>>>>>>>>>> fine. Yes, Powershell. I don't think that there is a Poweshell, 
>>>>>>>>>> please excuse my hasty typing.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Since you use only those 3 currencies try all three combinations, 
>>>>>>>>>> i.e. USD->GBP, EUR->GBP, and EUR->USD with gnc-fq-dump.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>> John Ralls
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 25, 2020, at 10:27 AM, Samantha Payn < 
>>>>>>>>>>> saman...@boorertranslations.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> John, thank you for your continued support.
>>>>>>>>>>> Before I try this can I just clarify two points:
>>>>>>>>>>> I have a choice of Windows Powershell and Windows Powershell 
>>>>>>>>>>> (Admin): which should I choose?
>>>>>>>>>>> And in the middle of your email I presume you mean "Powershell" 
>>>>>>>>>>> (not Poweshell as typed)?
>>>>>>>>>>> Finally, in response to your question I have no securities in my 
>>>>>>>>>>> Gnucash accounts. I am a freelance translator with a home currency 
>>>>>>>>>>> of GBP and clients who pay me (and a very occasional purchase) in 
>>>>>>>>>>> EUR and USD and use Gnucash for my business accounts. These are the 
>>>>>>>>>>> currency rates I am trying to access.
>>>>>>>>>>> Best wishes
>>>>>>>>>>> Samantha
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25 July 2020 17:12 John Ralls < jra...@ceridwen.us> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Samantha,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Next, some command-line testing. You can use CMD if you like, but 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I find Powershell to be a bit friendlier and easier to get to: 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Just right-click in the Start menu and it's in the middle. Once 
>>>>>>>>>>>> you have a shell, cd to C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\bin.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> First you'll need to set your ALPHAVANTAGE_API_KEY in the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> environment:
>>>>>>>>>>>> CMD
>>>>>>>>>>>> set ALPHAVANTAGE_API_KEY xxx...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Poweshell
>>>>>>>>>>>> $Env:ALPHAVANTAGE_API_KEY = xxx...
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Now test that you can retrieve an arbitrary currency pair:
>>>>>>>>>>>> perl 'c:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\bin\gnc-fq-dump currency USD 
>>>>>>>>>>>> GBP
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> If that works then Finance::Quote is working correctly and 
>>>>>>>>>>>> something else is going on. So far you've mentioned only currency 
>>>>>>>>>>>> rates, but the usual reason for a system error message from online 
>>>>>>>>>>>> price retrieval is trying to get a stock price from one of the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> dicontinued Yahoo! price sources. Do you have any securities in 
>>>>>>>>>>>> your book? If you're unsure use Tools>Security Editor to show a 
>>>>>>>>>>>> list of them.              
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>> John Ralls
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 25, 2020, at 5:22 AM, Samantha Payn < 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> saman...@boorertranslations.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for your help John.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have done as you instruct (including restarting Gnucash after 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the install) but there is now a different problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Gnucash about info now does show version 1.49 for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Finance::Quote
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Get Quotes button does light up, but when I click it I get an 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> error window that says: "There was a system error while 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> retrieving the price quotes".
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have tried restarting my computer to see if that helps but it 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> made no difference.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The last two lines of the installing text in the CPAN window, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> before the cpan prompt reappeared were *slightly* different to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> what you showed in your email. As far as I can recall they said:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Appending installation info to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> C:\strawberry\perl\lib/perllocal.pod
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ECOCODE/Finance-Quote-1.49.tar.gz
>>>>>>>>>>>>> C:\STRAWB\c\bin\gmake.exe install UNINST=1 -- OK
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you please give me guidance on what to do now?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Very many thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Samantha
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 24 July 2020 21:12 John Ralls < jra...@ceridwen.us> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 24, 2020, at 4:33 AM, Samantha Payn < 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> saman...@boorertranslations.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry to repeat myself but can anyone help me or shall I have 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to rely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on manual input of foreign exchange rates for the foreseeable 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> future? I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think that Windows has put the online price retrieval somewhere 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gnucash cannot "see" it and I am not sufficiently computer 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> literate to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correct this.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My problem is that when I go to post an invoice in a "foreign" 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> currency
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the "fetch rate" button is greyed out so I cannot use the online
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> currency rate retrieval that I used to be able to before I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> upgraded my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hardware.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After installing the current version of gnucash on my new PC, I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clicked
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on "Install Online Price Retrieval" from the Gnucash list in my 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> start
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> menu and I have entered the Alfa Vantage API key in my gnucash
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> preferences.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have checked for the presence of the perl software using the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Troubleshooting method John Ralls directed me to and received 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> response that I should install the Finance::Quote. The only way 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> done this in the past is by clicking on "Install Online Price
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Retrieval" from the Gnucash list in my start menu and this is 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have done. So I have done this again and after a run of code in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the cmd
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> window the final lines are:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "C:\Strawberry\perl\bin\perl.exe" -MExtUtils::Command -e cp - -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> examples/dm_zdump blib\script\dm_zdump pl2bat.bat 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blib\script\dm_dump
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SBECK/Date-Manip-6.82.tar.gz
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> C:\STRAWB~1\c\bin\gmake.exe - -OK
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does this mean that online price retrieval has been installed?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I look in the Windows list of apps installed it says I have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> installed Strawberry Perl on 3rd July (when I first tried 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> installing it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on my new PC).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am running the latest version of Gnucash and I find that in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the help
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> window it says
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Version: 4.0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Build ID: 4.0+(2020-06-27)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Finance::Quote: -"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please let me know what other information you need in order to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be able
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to help me. I am stepping way out of my comfort zone when I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enter the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cmd window but willing to give it a go.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It looks like Finance::Quote is not getting installed. Try this:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Find the Strawberry Perl group in the Start menu (windows logo 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at the bottom left of the screen). Open it and start CPAN 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Client. You'll get something that looks sort of like a CMD 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> window. At the prompt there type
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> install Finance::Quote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It will probably take a while and should eventually finish with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Appending installation info to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> C:\strawberry\perl\lib/perllocal.pod
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ECOCODE/Finance-Quote-1.49.tar.gz
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> C:\strawberry\c\bin\dmake.exe install UNINST=1 -- OK
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If GnuCash is running restart it, after which it should report 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version 1.49 for Finance::Quote and light up the Get Quotes 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> button.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John Ralls

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