I meant entering anything in the box would then pop up the dialog on continue, 
instead of having it triggered by a button.  I was not clear.

No, it does not make your job easier.  Yes, I realize the discussion was about 
removing functionality to make your job easier.


fleur
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> On Jul 14, 2020, at 4:16 PM, John Ralls <jra...@ceridwen.us> wrote:
> 
> It rather obviously can't be a text entry: It's a transaction so it needs to 
> collect all of the requisite fields: Date, number, description, notes, other 
> account, and debit/credit. Instead of being a popup it could transfer focus 
> back to the blank transaction in the register. I don't think that would be a 
> better design since it would provide no cues about what one is supposed to do 
> and the user can do it themselves anyway, no button required.
> 
> Regards,
> John Ralls
> 
>> On Jul 13, 2020, at 3:42 AM, fleur <fl...@obscure.org> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> No compelling reason either way, but a suggestion: For adding an interest 
>> transaction on reconciliation, does it have to be a popup?  Could it be a 
>> text entry box?  Not knowing the codebase at all, I have no idea what this 
>> implies, but IMO it's nicer UX than more clicking.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> fleur
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>> Fleur Dragan / fl...@obscure.org
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 12, 2020, at 5:38 PM, John Ralls <jra...@ceridwen.us> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Frank and I have both opined on 
>>> https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=797854 that the whole interest 
>>> payment as part of reconciling is stupid. I want to add to that opinion 
>>> that so is the payment transfer that optionally pops up when one finishes 
>>> reconciling a credit card account. It's a lot of program complexity that 
>>> relieves the user of very little work indeed: Those interest and payment 
>>> transactions can just as easily--maybe more easily--be created in the 
>>> register before and after reconciling, and in the case of interest they're 
>>> an obvious candidate for a scheduled transaction.
>>> 
>>> But that's a UI change and UI changes tend to generate heated disagreement. 
>>> I want to get that out of the way up front: Who here objects to removing 
>>> the interest and payment transfer automatic popups and the interest payment 
>>> button on the reconcile info dialog, and what compelling reason do you have 
>>> for objecting?
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> John Ralls
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 10, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Adrien Monteleone 
>>>> <adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks Jean,
>>>> 
>>>> I filed bug: https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=797854 for the issue 
>>>> with the global preference not being honored.
>>>> 
>>>> And bug: https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=797855 for the button 
>>>> issue on the two dialogs.
>>>> 
>>>> Feel free to combine them if you like. I wasn't sure of developers' intent 
>>>> with the global preference, so I filed them separately.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Adrien
>>>> 
>>>> On 7/10/20 5:52 PM, Jean Laroche wrote:
>>>>> If you open a bug about it, I can try to fix that (move things to the 
>>>>> right place etc). At the very least, the global option should be either 
>>>>> fixed, or removed.
>>>>> Jean
>>>>> On 7/10/20 3:35 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
>>>>>> For consistency, that very wide button should probably either be changed 
>>>>>> to a checkbox, then moved or copied to the Account Edit page as a 
>>>>>> per-account preference. (it could remain in the dialog for 
>>>>>> discoverability I suppose, which is what I mean by 'copied') One could 
>>>>>> change it in either place, but ideally, it should be in one place.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm not sure a global preference (especially one that is ignored) is 
>>>>>> necessary if each account can be set separately.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Adrien
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 7/10/20 5:16 PM, lj wrote:
>>>>>>> I figured it out. Duh.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> There is a button on the Reconcile dialog that says "Enter Interest 
>>>>>>> Payment". In addition to letting you enter an interest payment, 
>>>>>>> clicking that button sets a per-account flag to always prompt for an 
>>>>>>> interest payment when you reconcile.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On the Interest Payment dialog, there is a button "No Auto Interest 
>>>>>>> Payments for this Account". (It's very wide, and I didn't realize it 
>>>>>>> was a button.) That cancels the dialog, and also clears the per-account 
>>>>>>> flag so GnuCash will no longer prompt for interest payment when you 
>>>>>>> reconcile.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> And the global preference Register, Reconciling, Automatic interest 
>>>>>>> transfer? It does NOTHING at all. It sets a preference flag which is 
>>>>>>> never used. It's supposed to be the default for accounts without the 
>>>>>>> auto-interest-payment flag, but it doesn't work. Note that in 
>>>>>>> libgnucash/engine/Account.cpp, the function 
>>>>>>> xaccAccountGetAutoInterestXfer() ignores its default_value argument.
>>>>>> 
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