Understood. I don't have trouble getting Windows explorer to display the full path to me. That works well in text in the address bar. I have experimented with Jack's suggested setting in the past, and found it annoying.
Kind regards, Greg Feneis (Galaxy S7) On Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 05:51 Colin Law <clan...@gmail.com> wrote: > I agree it won't fix the problem, but looking to see what the full > path actually is (which I understood is not what it looks as if it is) > may help to diagnose the problem. > > Colin > > On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 13:23, Greg Feneis <mfen...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > The issue is that in 3.5.1, when I attempt to save to a location that I > usually save to in 2.6.21, GnuCash won't allow it. > > > > In GnuCash's error dialog GnuCash claims the location is reserved by > GnuCash. Further, in the displaying of the error message, GnuCash attempts > to display the path I selected, and that varies some, but always starts > with some gibberish (an indication that the binary data doesn't map to any > known characters). Sometimes after the gibberish, more path text follows, > and that's always ...users\Greg\app data\.... , which isn't the location > I'm trying to save to. So, even when GnuCash manages some display of path, > it's wrong. This is GnuCash trying to display the path in its own error > message dialog box. > > > > Jack's suggestion was for changing the way Windows explorer displays the > graphical representation of the current location selected by the user in > Windows Explorer. This won't help GnuCash display paths correctly in its > error messages. Further, getting GnuCash to display the path correctly in > its error message is just a symptom or clue. The actual problem is that > GnuCash 3.5.1 fails to save where 2.6.21 does. > > > > Kind regards, Greg Feneis > > (Galaxy S7) > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 04:41 Greg Feneis <mfen...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> Thanks Colin, I'm not having trouble viewing a path in Windows > explorer, GnuCash is failing to display the correct path in its error > dialog. > >> > >> Kind regards, Greg Feneis > >> (Galaxy S7) > >> > >> > >> On Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 00:57 Colin Law <clan...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> Did you try the suggestion from Jack Lockard earlier in order that you > >>> can see the real full path to that location? That might provide a > >>> clue to what is going on. > >>> > >>> Colin > >>> > >>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 02:07, Greg Feneis <mfen...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > > >>> > Installed 2.6.21 over the 3.5.1, and it was able to save as in the > usual > >>> > location, that 3.5 and 3.5.1 have trouble > >>> > > >>> > Kind regards, Greg Feneis > >>> > (Galaxy S7) > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > On Wed, Apr 10, 2019, 09:04 Greg Feneis <mfen...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > > >>> > > Well, I upgraded to "Rebuild of the GnuCash 3.5 Windows Bundle", > but > >>> > > GnuCash still gives me the strange error when I try to save to the > usual > >>> > > location where I've saved in the past successfully with 2.6.x. > >>> > > > >>> > > Kind regards, > >>> > > > >>> > > Greg Feneis > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 12:42 PM Greg Feneis <mfen...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>> > > > >>> > >> So far, nobody seems to be able to repeat this issue, so we > haven't ruled > >>> > >> out that it's a failure of my computer that's causing this. So > it's > >>> > >> probably not worth adding to the bug tracker. > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Kind regards, > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Greg Feneis <http://www.linkedin.com/in/electromechanical> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 8:10 PM John Ralls <jra...@ceridwen.us> > wrote: > >>> > >> > >>> > >>> Greg, > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> 2.6.21 and 3.x are supposed to be fully file-compatible. Earlier > >>> > >>> releases in the 2.6 series may not be depending on what 3.x > features you > >>> > >>> use. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> If you'd prefer to continue the troubleshooting in the bug > tracker, file > >>> > >>> a bug. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> > >>> John Ralls > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On Apr 8, 2019, at 5:40 PM, Greg Feneis <mfen...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> > Just a coupe of questions, > >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> > 1. Once the working file (xml) is saved by 3.5, does it remain > >>> > >>> backward compatible with 2.6.21 in case I want to downgrade? > >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> > 2. Should I log this bug in bugzilla? > >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> > Kind regards, > >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> > Greg Feneis > >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> > On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 7:27 AM Greg Feneis <mfen...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>> > >>> > Hi John, > >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> > Sorry I missed this yesterday. The language is English (United > >>> > >>> States), The Location is United States. The current language for > >>> > >>> non-Unicode programs is English (United States) > >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> > Kind regards, > >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> > Greg Feneis > >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> > On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 4:33 PM John Ralls <jra...@ceridwen.us> > wrote: > >>> > >>> > Indeed. I just tried C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & > D\GnuCash\GnuCash > >>> > >>> Docs\DeTradingWithExtraNoiseAdded.gnucash. No problem. > >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> > What are your Language and Region settings? Have you set LANG > and > >>> > >>> LANGUAGES in C:\Program Files > (x86)\gnucash\etc\gnucash\environment? Is > >>> > >>> your userid an Administrator? > >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> > Regards, > >>> > >>> > John Ralls > >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> > > On Apr 7, 2019, at 4:04 PM, Greg Feneis <mfen...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>> > >>> > > > >>> > >>> > > John, > >>> > >>> > > > >>> > >>> > > I misread your instructions and only attempted to save > outside of > >>> > >>> the Dropbox folder, but not in my ...\Users\Greg\... folder, so > I tried > >>> > >>> this path and file name: > >>> > >>> > > C:\Xobpord\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash > Files\Official > >>> > >>> Working File After Testing Path Lengh Issues.gnucash (117 chars, > outside of > >>> > >>> Dropbox, Failure!) > >>> > >>> > > The error message reads: > >>> > >>> > > "You attempted to save in > >>> > >>> H[gibberish]\Users\Greg\AppData\Roaming\GnuCash or a > subdirectory thereof. > >>> > >>> This is not allowed as GnuCash reserves that directory for > internal > >>> > >>> use....Please try again in a different directory. (close). > >>> > >>> > > > >>> > >>> > > Then I read your email again before starting a reply and > realized > >>> > >>> you spec'd the home directory, so I tried the following path and > file name: > >>> > >>> > > C:\Users\Greg\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash > >>> > >>> Files\Official Working File After Testing Path Lengh > Issues.gnucash (128 > >>> > >>> chars, outside of Dropbox, inside user folder, success!) > >>> > >>> > > > >>> > >>> > > So, appears with 3.5 I can only have a generous path while > saving > >>> > >>> within the windows user folder? > >>> > >>> > > > >>> > >>> > > Things are getting curiouser > >>> > >>> > > > >>> > >>> > > > >>> > >>> > > Kind regards,¯¯ > >>> > >>> > > Greg > >>> > >>> > > > >>> > >>> > > On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 1:46 PM John Ralls < > jra...@ceridwen.us> > >>> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> > > Just to completely rule out Dropbox being somehow involved, > could > >>> > >>> you create the same hierarchy in your home directory, i.e. > >>> > >>> c:\Users\Greg\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\Gnucash > Files\ > >>> > >>> > > > >>> > >>> > > I was able to successfully save > >>> > >>> > > C:\Users\John Ralls\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & > D\GnuCash\GnuCash > >>> > >>> Docs\DeTradingWithExtraNoiseAdded.gnucash > >>> > >>> > > and its log file > >>> > >>> > > C:\Users\John Ralls\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & > D\GnuCash\GnuCash > >>> > >>> Docs\DeTradingWithExtraNoiseAdded.gnucash.20190407134124.log > >>> > >>> > > > >>> > >>> > > Regards, > >>> > >>> > > John Ralls > >>> > >>> > > > >>> > >>> > > > >>> > >>> > > > On Apr 7, 2019, at 10:50 AM, Greg Feneis < > mfen...@gmail.com> > >>> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> > > > > >>> > >>> > > > Some more testing on the issue where 3.5 seems to want a > shorter > >>> > >>> path than 2.6.x did: > >>> > >>> > > > > >>> > >>> > > > Just now, I exited Dropbox to see if that had something to > do with > >>> > >>> it, but pretty much the same error for all three path > variations, what > >>> > >>> worked historically with 2.6.x, no ampersand but some folder > names used > >>> > >>> spaces, and no ampersand + no spaces. It seemed purely to do > with length, > >>> > >>> but it doesn't seem to be about total characters. > >>> > >>> > > > > >>> > >>> > > > With Dropbox back on, here are some more tests: > >>> > >>> > > > > >>> > >>> > > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\test.gnucash (52 > chars) > >>> > >>> Success! > >>> > >>> > > > > >>> > >>> > > > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\GnuCashFiles\test.gnucash > >>> > >>> (65 chars) Failure! > >>> > >>> > > > > >>> > >>> > > > So I shortened the name of the last folder from > GnuCashFiles down > >>> > >>> to G and still got the same problem > >>> > >>> > > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\G\test.gnucash > (54 chars) > >>> > >>> Failure! > >>> > >>> > > > > >>> > >>> > > > So I shortened the name of the previous folder from > GnuCash down > >>> > >>> to GnuCa, and it also failed even though it was 52 chars, the > character > >>> > >>> count that seemed to work previously. Also the error message > for this is > >>> > >>> slightly different. > >>> > >>> > > > "You attempted to save in > >>> > >>> [gibberish]\Users\Greg\AppData\Roaming\GnuCash or a subdirectory > thereof. > >>> > >>> This is not allowed as GnuCash reserves that directory for > internal > >>> > >>> use....Please try again in a different directory. (close)." See > screen > >>> > >>> shot here > >>> > >>> > https://www.dropbox.com/s/pa3gdy6c2w21x6u/2019-04-07_9-30-31.jpg?dl=0 > >>> > >>> > > > This was the actual attempted path: > >>> > >>> > > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCa\G\test.gnucash (52 > chars) > >>> > >>> Failure! although same char count > >>> > >>> > > > > >>> > >>> > > > More testing: > >>> > >>> > > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\G\G\test.gnucash (48 > chars) > >>> > >>> Failure! > >>> > >>> > > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCand\G\G\test.gnucash (47 chars) > Failure! > >>> > >>> > > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCan\G\G\test.gnucash (46 chars) > Success! > >>> > >>> > > > > >>> > >>> > > > If I reduce the number of folders in the path, does the max > >>> > >>> character count go up? > >>> > >>> > > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\G\test.gnucash (46 chars) > >>> > >>> Success! > >>> > >>> > > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\Gnu\test.gnucash (48 chars) > >>> > >>> Success! > >>> > >>> > > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\test.gnucash (52 > chars) > >>> > >>> Success! (confirming results from beginning of this email) > >>> > >>> > > > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCashTestLongerPath\test.gnucash > >>> > >>> (66 chars) Success! > >>> > >>> > > > > >>> > >>> > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCashTestLongerPathAndEvenLongerPath\test.gnucash > >>> > >>> (83 chars) Success! > >>> > >>> > > > > >>> > >>> > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCashTestLongerPathAndEvenLongerPathAndEvenLongerPath\test.gnucash > >>> > >>> (100 chars) Success! > >>> > >>> > > > > >>> > >>> > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandDTestEvenLongerPathEvenLongerPathSuperLongPath\GnuCashTestLongerPathAndEvenLongerPathAndEvenLongerPath\test.gnucash > >>> > >>> (145 chars) Success! > >>> > >>> > > > > >>> > >>> > > > I'm not going to test to failure on this folder count, but > it sure > >>> > >>> looks like something about GnuCash 3.5 limits the path based on > folder > >>> > >>> count and path character count. If I use a 5 folder path, max > path > >>> > >>> character count is 46. If I used a 4 folder path, I've tested > up to 145 > >>> > >>> characters. > >>> > >>> > > > > >>> > >>> > > > Hope this helps. > >>> > >>> > > > > >>> > >>> > > > Kind regards, > >>> > >>> > > > > >>> > >>> > > > Greg > >>> > >>> > > > > >>> > >>> > > > > >>> > >>> > > > > >>> > >>> > > > > >>> > >>> > > > On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 8:32 AM Greg Feneis < > mfen...@gmail.com> > >>> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> > > > Hi John, > >>> > >>> > > > > >>> > >>> > > > The path length issue was with 3.5 on Win 7-64. > Previously used > >>> > >>> 2.6.x to save to the same location without trouble. > >>> > >>> > > > > >>> > >>> > > > The path that 3.5 failed to write to is: > >>> > >>> > > > > >>> > >>> > > > C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash > >>> > >>> Files\(VerboseFileNameProbably30chars.gnucash) > >>> > >>> > > > > >>> > >>> > > > The last successful saves to this directory was by GnuCash > 2.6.21, > >>> > >>> and was: > >>> > >>> > > > > >>> > >>> > > > C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash > >>> > >>> Files\AfterImporting2018ThroughQ4.gnucash.20190401075914.log > (4/1/2019 > >>> > >>> 8:01AM) > >>> > >>> > > > > >>> > >>> > > > C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash > >>> > >>> Files\AfterImporting2018ThroughQ4.gnucash (4/1/2019 7:59AM) > >>> > >>> > > > > >>> > >>> > > > Since I suspected it was a path length issue, I tried > saving the > >>> > >>> file name test.gnucash in the same location, but got the same > error. So I > >>> > >>> went one folder back and tried to save again and it failed the > same way. I > >>> > >>> kept shortening the path folder by folder like this until it did > save, > >>> > >>> which was as follows: > >>> > >>> > > > > >>> > >>> > > > C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\test.gnucash > >>> > >>> > > > > >>> > >>> > > > Next, I copied the original folders so I could make a test > path > >>> > >>> exactly like the path that causes the error, but with no > ampersand, and I > >>> > >>> still get the the same problem. > >>> > >>> > > > > >>> > >>> > > > C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C and D\GnuCash\GnuCash Files\ > >>> > >>> fails just like C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & > D\GnuCash\GnuCash Files\ > >>> > >>> > > > > >>> > >>> > > > A screen shot of the error > >>> > >>> > > > > >>> > >>> > https://www.dropbox.com/s/gd8rlgj1kvv0ysn/2019-04-05_18-37-52.png?dl=0 > >>> > >>> > > > > >>> > >>> > > > Next, I copied the original folder so I could make a test > path > >>> > >>> exactly like the path that causes the error, but with no spaces > in the > >>> > >>> folder names and no ampersand, and I still get the same > problem. However, > >>> > >>> this time, when gnucash tried to display the path in the error > message, it > >>> > >>> got some of it right. > >>> > >>> > > > > >>> > >>> > > > A screen shot of that is here: > >>> > >>> > > > > >>> > >>> > https://www.dropbox.com/s/e3p0agpdlkmzia4/2019-04-05_18-52-26.png?dl=0 > >>> > >>> > > > > >>> > >>> > > > > >>> > >>> > > > Kind regards, > >>> > >>> > > > > >>> > >>> > > > Greg > >>> > >>> > > > > >>> > >>> > > > > >>> > >>> > > > > >>> > >>> > > > > >>> > >>> > > > On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 10:14 PM John Ralls < > jra...@ceridwen.us> > >>> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> > > > That's interesting. What is the path that's causing > trouble with > >>> > >>> 3.5, and please remind me what OS you're using. > >>> > >>> > > > > >>> > >>> > > > Regards, > >>> > >>> > > > John Ralls > >>> > >>> > > > > >>> > >>> > > > > >>> > >>> > > > > On Apr 6, 2019, at 10:04 PM, Greg Feneis < > mfen...@gmail.com> > >>> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> > > > > > >>> > >>> > > > > There's a problem with 3.5 where it won't save to the > usual > >>> > >>> location that I > >>> > >>> > > > > have saved the file to when I was using 2.6.x For some > reason > >>> > >>> 3.5 has a > >>> > >>> > > > > problem with path length. I never had a problem with > 2.6.21, I > >>> > >>> just > >>> > >>> > > > > thought I should keep up to the latest in case I wanted > to ask > >>> > >>> for help > >>> > >>> > > > > with it. But since it's going to give me trouble, I'll > just go > >>> > >>> back to > >>> > >>> > > > > 2.6.21, so long as it will work with the file that was > >>> > >>> previously saved by > >>> > >>> > > > > 3.5. > >>> > >>> > > > > > >>> > >>> > > > > > >>> > >>> > > > > > >>> > >>> > > > > > >>> > >>> > > > > Kind regards, > >>> > >>> > > > > > >>> > >>> > > > > Greg Feneis < > http://www.linkedin.com/in/electromechanical> > >>> > >>> > > > > > >>> > >>> > > > > > >>> > >>> > > > > > >>> > >>> > > > > > >>> > >>> > > > > On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 7:09 PM Fross, Michael < > mich...@fross.org> > >>> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> > > > > > >>> > >>> > > > >> If you don't mind my asking, why are you downgrading? > What > >>> > >>> have you found > >>> > >>> > > > >> that you prefer in 2.6.21? > >>> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > >>> > > > >> Michael > >>> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > >>> > > > >> On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 1:26 PM Greg Feneis < > mfen...@gmail.com> > >>> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > >>> > > > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> > > > >>> > >>> > >>> > > > >>> I've done some work in 3.5 and I'm considering > downgrading to > >>> > >>> 2.6.21. > >>> > >>> > > > >>> > >>> > >>> > > > >>> Can 2.6.21 work with the xml .gnucash file once it was > changed > >>> > >>> and saved > >>> > >>> > > > >>> by > >>> > >>> > > > >>> 3.5? > >>> > >>> > > > >>> > >>> > >>> > > > >>> Kind regards, > >>> > >>> > > > >>> > >>> > >>> > > > >>> Greg > >>> > >>> > > > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> > >>> > > > >>> gnucash-user mailing list > >>> > >>> > > > >>> gnucash-user@gnucash.org > >>> > >>> > > > >>> To update your subscription preferences or to > unsubscribe: > >>> > >>> > > > >>> > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > >>> > >>> > > > >>> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > >>> > >>> > > > >>> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more > >>> > >>> information. > >>> > >>> > > > >>> ----- > >>> > >>> > > > >>> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > >>> > >>> > > > >>> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > >>> > >>> > > > >>> > >>> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > >>> > > > > _______________________________________________ > >>> > >>> > > > > gnucash-user mailing list > >>> > >>> > > > > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > >>> > >>> > > > > To update your subscription preferences or to > unsubscribe: > >>> > >>> > > > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > >>> > >>> > > > > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > >>> > >>> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more > information. > >>> > >>> > > > > ----- > >>> > >>> > > > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > >>> > >>> > > > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > >>> > >>> > > > > >>> > >>> > > > >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ > >>> > gnucash-user mailing list > >>> > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > >>> > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > >>> > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > >>> > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > >>> > ----- > >>> > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > >>> > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > _______________________________________________ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. ----- Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. 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