Is the 'frozen' status which is already in place but seemingly unused supposed to be for this purpose?
David C On Thu, Jun 28, 2018, 12:31 PM John Ralls <jra...@ceridwen.us> wrote: > > > > On Jun 28, 2018, at 10:10 AM, Geert Janssens <geert.gnuc...@kobaltwit.be> > wrote: > > > > Op donderdag 28 juni 2018 18:47:18 CEST schreef Stephen M. Butler: > >> On 06/27/2018 04:41 PM, DaveC49 wrote: > >>> An active non-placeholder account should not have child/subaccounts, > >>> although I don't think GnuCash actually prevents this. In this case, > the > >>> parent account total is the sum of the child subaccount totals plus the > >>> sum > >>> of any transactions into the parent account itself. This will make a > >>> report > >>> look to be incorrect as the sum of transactions into the parent > account is > >>> not presented separately and its total will not be the sum of the child > >>> account totals. I can't think of a use case where this would be > desirable, > >>> but some people may be happy with that behavior. I don't think this > >>> behavior has changed since I first checked it out in an earlier version > >>> (around 2.2 I think). > >> > >> This is a problem. In a good report the parent with transactions should > >> show a line for the parent so that the column total for that parent (on > >> the balance sheet) is correct. > >> > > This seems to make most sense to me: > > If a parent has transactions put it twice: > > Once as aggregate account and once as an account on it's own. That would > meet > > both needs. The aggregate will total it's own transactions with those of > its > > child accounts. Or put differently the aggregate account would treat > itself as > > a child account. > > +1 > > > > >> At least, as a former IT software development manager, I would insist > >> that a column total show all of it's inputs. > >> > >> Maybe the financial folks can band together to get the developers to > >> enforce no-transactions to a parent account. > > > > I think we should modify the concepts. "Placeholder" is ambiguous and > for the > > lack of a better solution is has been abused to make existing accounts > read- > > only. > > > > Perhaps it's time to introduce a "View" type account which is only used > to > > structure the account tree (and as aggregate account in reports) and > next to > > that introduce a read-only attribute to normal accounts. Placeholder > could > > then be phased out in favor of these two. We could even try to automate > this > > using some heuristics: > > - if a placeholder account has no transactions, convert it into a view > account > > - if a placeholder account does have transactions, make it read-only > instead. > > Add in an informational message to the user about what was done so the > user > > can make corrections if needed (like adding view accounts if an account > was > > being used for both functions). > > > > I propose that we combine “placeholder” and “hidden” to “inactive” which > removes an account from the picker list and from the Accounts page unless > “show inactive accounts” is selected from the filter. > > While marking an account “placeholder” prevents adding transactions to it, > there’s no requirement in GnuCash that an account with children have the > placeholder flag set. To strictly follow David Cousen’s advice we’d have to > impose that restriction, but some users might find that a bit drastic. > Perhaps we could make it a book option? > > Regards, > John Ralls > > > _______________________________________________ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > ----- > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. _______________________________________________ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. ----- Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
