David T: No, he didn’t. He said that it’s poor accounting practice and since unlike you and me he’s a licensed accountant we should respect his judgement. He also said explicitly that GnuCash doesn’t enforce that and he correctly described how GnuCash handles placeholder accounts having transactions.
Regards, John Ralls > On Jun 28, 2018, at 6:39 AM, D via gnucash-user <gnucash-user@gnucash.org> > wrote: > > David, > > You've now misstated twice that Placeholder accounts cannot have > transactions, and I feel it is important to make it unambiguously clear to > anyone reading this thread that there is nothing in Gnucash that prevents > placeholder accounts from having transactions. > > Setting an account as a placeholder only prevents further transactions from > being added to that account. Many of us use the placeholder setting to > prevent accidental creation of transactions in closed accounts, for example.I > > David T. > > On June 28, 2018, at 4:58 AM, DaveC49 <davidcous...@bigpond.com> wrote: > > Stephen, > > As an accountant I would prefer to have parent accounts as placeholder > accounts which cannot be the target of transactions directly (this can be > set in the edit Account dialog and marks the account as read only) as the > placeholder total should then be the sum of its active child accounts. This > will give clean easy to read reports which make obvious sense. > > Before you convert an existing parent account to a placeholder (by checking > the placeholder checkbox in the Edit Account dialog), you will need to > transfer any transactions into it to an appropriate child/sub-account. My > experience is that a placeholder account can have in turn child accounts > which are also placeholders as well as child active accounts, which is OK > and makes sense. > > An active non-placeholder account should not have child/subaccounts, > although I don't think GnuCash actually prevents this. In this case, the > parent account total is the sum of the child subaccount totals plus the sum > of any transactions into the parent account itself. This will make a report > look to be incorrect as the sum of transactions into the parent account is > not presented separately and its total will not be the sum of the child > account totals. I can't think of a use case where this would be desirable, > but some people may be happy with that behavior. I don't think this behavior > has changed since I first checked it out in an earlier version (around 2.2 I > think). > > The report is a different beast but it should reflect the above behavior and > a placeholder parent account should only show the total of its > child/subaccounts totals. If it doesn't tha indicates that it may have > already been the target of transactions when set as a placeholder and these > were not transferred to a sub-account. > > If a parent account is not a placeholder account, it should behave as > described above and add the total of any transactions into it to the sum of > any child account totals. I haven't got time at the moment to check all the > reports out but I have never noticed any problems with the Balance Sheet and > Income Statement with all parent accounts set as placeholders. There are > enough accountants using GnuCash that this would have been picked up pretty > quickly if it was not behaving as expected. > > Hope this helps make sense and helps you to get GnuCash working as you want > > Cheers > > David Cousens > > > > > > ----- > David Cousens > -- > Sent from: http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html > _______________________________________________ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > ----- > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > _______________________________________________ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > ----- > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. _______________________________________________ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. ----- Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
