Nice trick, thanks Chris!

Regards,
Adrien

> On Feb 15, 2018, at 2:47 PM, Chris Good <goodchri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Fran3 & Adrien,
> 
> Currently (2.6.19 or under development in 2.7/3.0), there is no menu option 
> for exporting customers or vendors. You can do so by using either the 
> Payables Aging or Receivable Aging reports. Use the report options to choose 
> the columns that the imports require, then run the report, and copy 
> everything and paste into a spreadsheet.
> 
> Regards, Chris Good
> 
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2018 13:08:25 -0600
>> From: Adrien Monteleone <adrien.montele...@gmail.com>
>> To: "gnucash-user@gnucash.org" <gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
>> Subject: Re: Creating Account for each Vendor to avoid Creating and
>>   Paying each Bill?
>> Message-ID: <2039cce9-0711-4685-9d6f-712d95d86...@gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=utf-8
>> 
>> 2.6.1 is rather old, by a few years. 2.6.19 is the most current version. As 
>> far as I know, even in the most current version, there is no way to export 
>> customers and vendors. (might be possible with the upcoming 3.0, but I?m not 
>> certain on that) The link I provided was on the assumption you needed to 
>> still put them in. If you have them in and are still wanting to use a 
>> separate file for each year working backwards in time, that approach isn?t 
>> needed.
>> 
>> Certainly, working forward in time with new books is trivial, but backwards 
>> is a bit messy. Others might have better ideas, but the best I can think of 
>> is to save the file with a 2017 name. Open that instead, delete all 
>> transactions (which were really 2018) and then import your 2017 data. Your 
>> customers and vendors will still be there. However, so will your 2018 
>> invoices and bills, which you can?t delete, but you could mark ?inactive?. 
>> Since the year is young, there won?t be too many of them. You could likely 
>> just edit them with 2017 info.
>> 
>> Certainly, use the tool and process you are most familiar with to meet your 
>> deadline. Then come back to Gnucash.
>> 
>> When you do, I?d really, really, recommend starting where you want, then 
>> work forwards in time - all in one book. You?ll find having everything 
>> together much more flexible reporting wise. If you want or need some sort of 
>> archive each year, that is easy enough to do:
>> 
>> Create annual reports, saved to PDF.
>> Write the reports and the Gnucash file to a read-only medium such as 
>> CD-ROM/DVD. (not an ?RW? disk though)
>> 
>> This allows you to still easily see and report on prior activity with 
>> comparison reports, and have a static copy to allay any fears of editing 
>> prior data, either intentional or accidental. You can also always load that 
>> static copy for additional reporting if needed.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Adrien
>> 
>>> On Feb 15, 2018, at 8:04 AM, Fran_3 <mailbox0...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I see where gnuCash 2.6.1 on Win10 can import customers and vendors... but 
>>> I can not see how to  export them... 
>>> 
>>> The File > Export menu offers...
>>> 
>>> 1 - Export Account Tree to CSV
>>> 2 - Export Transactions to CSV
>>> 3 - Export Accounts
>>> 
>>> BTW, difference between 1 and 3 above ? Maybe 3 just exports the top level 
>>> of the chart of accounts and 1 exports all including sub accounts... or 
>>> what?
>>> 
>>> Regarding fast import and assignment of 2017 I think the deadline for the 
>>> report due will force us to use a spreadsheet as we are very familiar with 
>>> that and can process quickly... while we are still learning gnuCash.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the help.
>>> 
>>> Fran3
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wednesday, February 14, 2018, 8:23:06 PM EST, Adrien Monteleone 
>>> <adrien.montele...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> There should be no need to create expense sub-accounts for vendors if all 
>>> you want is a way to see how much you spent with them. (or still owe them 
>>> at any point) That would also get quite messy if a vendor might sell items 
>>> that fit in more than one expense account.
>>> 
>>> Create your vendors, create and post your bills, then pay the bills using 
>>> the Process Payment feature.
>>> 
>>> You can then run a Vendor Report for each vendor for any date range and see 
>>> total spent and paid to each with full transaction history and clickable 
>>> links to either the transaction itself or the particular bill.
>>> 
>>> You can also run Payable Aging report to show you any amounts in arrears 
>>> with links to find the particular bills.
>>> 
>>> Since you have lots of historical data you want to import, and it seems 
>>> you?ll be importing the vendor payments as part of your checking account 
>>> import, I?d suggest the following workflow:
>>> 
>>> Create a CSV file with all of your bill data. (you?ll need to create or 
>>> import your vendors first)
>>> Import this CSV to bring your bills in properly.
>>> Do a Find on a few bills and run a Vendor Report or two to make sure 
>>> everything imported okay.
>>> Once your checking account transactions are imported (if not already there) 
>>> you?ll need to click each payment to a vendor and use the ?assign as 
>>> payment? option. This will then give you the ?process payment? window where 
>>> you can search for a vendor, see all of their unpaid bills, then assign the 
>>> transaction as a payment. (be mindful the dates, amounts, and check# are 
>>> correct and that it is taking the payment from the proper account)
>>> 
>>> Now, everything is imported and properly assigned just as if you had 
>>> entered it in real time originally from scratch.
>>> 
>>> As an added tip, when assigning payment to a transaction, I?d recommend 
>>> tagging that transaction with the bill number from the Vendor. (or 
>>> something to ID the payment for if the vendor doesn?t use invoice #s) 
>>> Gnucash doesn?t make it easy by default to see what bills a payment applies 
>>> to. (possible, just not easy) You?ll probably want to know that info from 
>>> time to time when looking at a register. You have two main options here. 
>>> Either turn on View > Double-line mode and use the Notes line for this 
>>> info, or place it in the Memo of the split for either the checking account 
>>> credit or the AP debit, whichever makes the most sense to you. (putting it 
>>> in notes, also puts it in the memo for the AP debit split) Now, when you 
>>> run a vendor report, you?ll see that bill# note in the Description column 
>>> for easy reference.
>>> 
>>> Here?s a link to documentation on the CSV for importing bills/invoices: 
>>> https://lists.gnucash.org/docs/C/gnucash-guide/import-invoices.html
>>> 
>>> Here?s the link for customers/vendors (note the caveat about billing info): 
>>> https://lists.gnucash.org/docs/C/gnucash-guide/import-customers-vendors.html
>>> 
>>> If you?re coming from some other software, you might even be able to get 
>>> that data exported as a CSV and then do some minor surgery on the column 
>>> order for Gnucash to be happy rather than typing it all from scratch.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Adrien
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 14, 2018, at 5:59 PM, Fran_3 via gnucash-user 
>>>> <gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> OK, as I understand it after we import checking transactions for a small 
>>>> business...
>>>> For each Vendor Payment we must first create a Bill and then Pay that bill 
>>>> so that it remains associated with the vendor. That's a lot of clicking 
>>>> and typing.
>>>> So would this work?
>>>> In the chart of accounts under say... Expenses > Office Supplies
>>>> we create sub accounts for each Office supply vendor...
>>>> Than from the check register just assign that payment to that account...
>>>> Now we are tracking total office supply expenses and how much we spent 
>>>> with each vendor.
>>>> We are considering this for 2017 transactions as we are under a very short 
>>>> deadline to come up with some numbers and every step we save helps.
>>>> What do you think?
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Fran3

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