I would support the idea of the log and backup files being in a
subdirectory named using the accounts file name as a seed, so for example
myaccounts.gnucash.archive or maybe for those windows users who have
problems with file extensions not being shown myaccounts_gnucash_archive.
Something like that anyway. I think that would reduce the likelihood of
users accidentally opening backup files instead of the main accounts file,
which is something we hear of here regularly. Also it would allow the
accounts file to be placed on the desktop which is something some users
seem to like doing.

Colin

On 13 February 2018 at 07:59, David T. via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:

> Adrien,
> Log files have to be visible to the user, so that when they have to
> recover from an error state in their files, they can use them to restore.
> David
>
>
>
>   On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 9:05, Adrien Monteleone<adrien.monteleone@
> gmail.com> wrote:   It would seem to me the ‘cleaner’ option to store the
> log and lock files in some data directory like ".gnucash" "\Application
> Data\Gnucash" or "~/Library/Application Support/Gnucash" (or otherwise as
> per the OS recommendations) than have everything lumped together. Then, the
> user can store their book in whatever place they like and not have other
> files the app needs lying about to clutter their vision or aid to their
> confusion.
>
> Certainly other needed files like reports, user prefs and the like are
> handled this way. I never did grasp why the log and lock files weren’t.
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> > On Feb 12, 2018, at 10:45 AM, David Carlson <david.carlson....@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Michael,
> >
> > I agree that the backup scheme should be as idiot proof as possible.
> >
> > However, one reason (of several) that I personally am not using a cloud
> > service yet is that I do not see how the cloud would handle all all those
> > log files coming and going and data files being renamed every few
> minutes.
> >
> > Also, ordinary users get lost if they browse the folder looking for a
> data
> > file.
> >
> > Perhaps a simple (?) scheme of putting backup s in a sub folder named
> > filename_backup or similar might help with these issues, even if it adds
> > overhead to move files around.
> >
> > I think the developer s are considering relocating backups in the 3.0
> > release do this is a good time to discuss this.
> >
> > Sorry my tablet just decided that I nrrdrf a smaller keyboard.
> >
> > David
> >
> > On Feb 12, 2018 9:49 AM, "Mike or Penny Novack" <
> > stepbystepf...@dialup4less.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 2/12/2018 10:08 AM, David Carlson wrote:
> >>
> >> Johnathan,
> >>
> >> GnuCash may or may not play well with various cloud storage services
> >> because of it's insistence (in current releases) on keeping it's
> automatic
> >> backups in the same folder as the data file.
> >>
> >>
> >> Just so understood why it makes sense (to me)  to "insist" the automatic
> >> backups go into the same directory as the file. It guarantees gnucash
> being
> >> able to make up a UNIQUE name for the backups. If you were allowed to
> >> specify a directory B  in which to put the automatic backups for
> >> books.gnucash in directory A, what prevents directory B from also
> >> containing  a file named books.gnucash ?
> >>
> >> Yes of course, care by the user could prevent a disaster like that, but
> as
> >> somebody who used to get paid to unscramble messes caused by that sort
> of
> >> carelessness, absolute prevention is better.
> >>
> >> Michael D Novack
> >>
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