I will set up some templates after I get a login to the wiki. I have just filed a request.
On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 9:52 AM David T. <sunfis...@yahoo.com> wrote: > Templates do sound like an improvement, although I would be concerned with > some of these huge wiki pages (like the Documentation Update Instructions > page) that the box will be at the top, and someone will link into the page > such that the box wouldn’t show. > > If you set up the templates or explained how to set them up and implement > them, I would consider helping out. Can’t guarantee anything. > > David > > > On May 19, 2017, at 5:49 PM, Geert Janssens <geert.gnuc...@kobaltwit.be> > wrote: > > > > Hi Buddha, > > > > I didn't even know of the existence of templates. The ones you suggest > are a > > good start IMO. > > > > As for Wiki's containing everything, I only follow up to "that is not > readily > > available elsewhere". In the latter case I would prefer to be pointed at > the > > proper source (for example to the Guide, or another external reference). > > > > Let's see what others can still add... > > > > Regards, > > > > Geert > > > > On donderdag 18 mei 2017 20:12:52 CEST Buddha Buck wrote: > >> I just went and looked at the Wiki, to get an idea of what the task is. > >> > >> I'm all for Wikis containing everything, as long as it is clearly > >> identified and organized. Currently, I agree that the Wiki doesn't meet > >> that standard. Even the front page is a "mixed bag" of content, and > >> could/should be organized better. As you point out, figuring out the > >> necessary organization is difficult. > >> > >> I think that for starters the creation of a few templates that can be > >> dropped onto pages to help classify content and make it visible would > help. > >> For instance, create a Template:Historical template which (a) adds the > >> article to the "Historical" category, and (b) displays a box at the top > of > >> the page saying that the content of the page applies to a past version > of > >> GnuCash and is not current documentation. Then Wiki editors can look at > a > >> page (on, say, using lots for managing stock transactions) and drop in > the > >> template so that future readers who stumble upon it can clearly see it's > >> probably not what they are looking for. > >> > >> Based on the things you've noticed, I can suggest a few templates to > make: > >> > >> - Template:Historical > >> - Template:Version|vernum|endvernum (for marking that a page is > useful > >> for GnuCash between versions vernum and endvernum, both optional). > >> - Template:InDevelopment (for marking pages that refer to features > that > >> are in development, but haven't been released) > >> - Template:Os|ostype (for marking pages with OS-specific information > >> - Template:MarkedForDeletion > >> > >> I can also see categories related to > >> > >> - Category:HowTo > >> - Category:Development > >> - Category:Documentation > >> - Category:Announcement > >> - Category:Events > >> - Category:CanSomeoneElseLookAtThisPlease > >> > >> 221 content pages doesn't sound like a lot. I'd be willing to do some of > >> the work to set up the templates and categories (once we nail down what > we > >> want) and start working through the pages and tagging them with > categories > >> and templates. > >> > >> > >> On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 1:25 PM Geert Janssens < > geert.gnuc...@kobaltwit.be> > >> > >> wrote: > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> A recent thread on a page in our wiki on lots raised the potential > pitfall > >>> of > >>> having draft pages in our wiki as rightfully pointed out by David T. > >>> > >>> I don't consider me a wiki maintainer really though I have contributed > to > >>> some > >>> pages. This minor incident did get me thinking though. And I want to > >>> discuss > >>> the following question with a broader audience: > >>> > >>> What do we want our wiki to be ? > >>> > >>> A few statistics [0] for those interested in contributing to this > >>> discussion: > >>> > >>> 1. The wiki currently has 221 real content pages [1] of varying quality > >>> and > >>> usefulness. > >>> 2. In addition there are 310 additional related pages like redirects, > talk > >>> pages,... > >>> 3. There are 12 admins, of which only a handful is still active as far > as > >>> I > >>> know (and I didn't know *I* was one of them) > >>> 4. Looking at the content pages list, I find about 53 pages are ancient > >>> release announcements or readme files for obsolete gnucash versions. > >>> > >>> In its current form it's a mixed bag of all kinds of content > >>> - pages attempting to guide contributors in helping out in different > forms > >>> - pages attempting to help users with common or less common issues > >>> - reports of past events > >>> - some of these pages are generic, others are platform dependent,... > >>> - however most pages don't specify their intent clearly so in several > >>> cases > >>> it's difficult to judge whether the page is for what you are looking > for > >>> or > >>> not > >>> - some pages have current information, others are for historical > interest > >>> only > >>> - ... > >>> > >>> So what do we want to achieve with the wiki ? > >>> Do we manage to achieve it ? > >>> > >>> I believe we would be beneficial find an answer to these questions so > we > >>> can > >>> more clearly guide the content creation in the wiki. > >>> > >>> From what I see the wiki is currently rather chaotic. I realize wikis > >>> usually > >>> are. However I think a wiki can be more. So a few first suggestions: > >>> > >>> - At the very least the content that's there could do with some > >>> structuring > >>> (again a concept not native to wikis), for example by making better > use of > >>> well thought out categories. > >>> > >>> - Depending on the answer to my first question, I would also propose to > >>> drop > >>> certain pages, to start with the obsolete announcements and README > pages. > >>> > >>> From there I'm very open to other suggestions to improve it. Please > join > >>> in! > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> > >>> Geert > >>> > >>> [0] Gathered from here: > http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Special:Statistics > >>> [1] http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/index.php? > >>> title=Special:AllPages&hideredirects=1 > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> gnucash-devel mailing list > >>> gnucash-devel@gnucash.org > >>> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > gnucash-devel mailing list > > gnucash-devel@gnucash.org > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel > > _______________________________________________ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
