Nice.! I would like to keep the ability to do capital gains either way, as I like keeping all the info in one transaction.
David C On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 2:24 AM, David T. <sunfis...@yahoo.com> wrote: > David C., > > It seems to me that we are all in agreement regarding the note about > multiple display issues; to that end, I have submitted bug 769457 with a > recommendation about what that note should be, and where it should be > placed. > > Chris was hoping to rewrite the capital gains section to reduce confusion > by using separate transactions for the sale and the gain. With regard to > the question of gain on the Advanced Portfolio Report, I’ve been using the > Scrub Lots function for some time now (which creates separate gains > transactions), and it appears that the gains are included there. Whether it > is fully accurate, I can’t say with certainty, as the APR includes > everything in the GnuCash file, which for me is over 10 years’ data, and I > don’t track my gains that way. > > David T. > > On Aug 2, 2016, at 11:31 PM, David Carlson <david.carlson....@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Chris, > I do not object to the change but take care to note that the so-called > double entry only appears when the transaction is viewed from the security > account or viewed in any account with multiple split lines for the "home" > account within the transaction along with the difference between the single > line view vs double line view. Also name the current release (2.6.13 and > earlier) here, as somewhere down the road that may change, possibly at the > 2.8 release or soon thereafter. > > The reason that the capital gain was historically in an additional split > line of the sale transaction was (IIRC) because the advanced portfolio > report needed it to be that way to report capital gains correctly. I > believe that requirement has been eliminated in the last round of > improvements to that report, but correct me if I am wrong. I have not > tested that. > > David C > > On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 3:07 AM, Chris Good <chris.g...@ozemail.com.au> > wrote: > >> > >> -----Original Message----- >> > >> From: John Ralls [mailto:jra...@ceridwen.us] >> > >> Sent: Saturday, 30 July 2016 9:25 AM >> > >> To: Chris Good <chris.g...@ozemail.com.au> >> > >> Cc: gnucash-devel@gnucash.org >> > >> Subject: Re: Guide Investment selling examples >> > >> >> > >> >> > >>> On Jul 28, 2016, at 7:38 PM, Chris Good <chris.g...@ozemail.com.au> >> > >> wrote: >> > >>> >> > >>> Why do the images in the Guide seem to duplicate the sale >> transactions. >> > >> I.e. >> > >>> in the attached, there seems to be 2 transactions for 03/21/2006 but >> > >>> the no of shares balance indicates there is only 1? >> > >>> >> > >>> Is this something an old version used to do? If so, this must be >> > >>> very confusing to new users. Should I redo these screen shots? >> > >> >> > >> No, the screen shot is correct. It can indeed be a bit confusing. >> > >> >> > >> There are two transaction entries because the transaction has two >> > >> splits, >> > > one >> > >> for "Gross Sale" and the other for "Profit" (i.e. capital gain). It's >> > >> done >> > > this way >> > >> to tie together the two parts of the transaction; it doesn't have to >> > >> be >> > > and if >> > >> you use the Scrub Lots function it isn't; that makes two transactions >> > >> and >> > > uses >> > >> the lot slots to tie them together. >> > >> >> > >> Read carefully Chapter 8 a couple of times and it should start to >> > >> make >> > > sense. >> > >> >> > >> Regards, >> > >> John Ralls >> > > >> > > Hi John, >> > > >> > > Ah! As you say, it's because there are 2 splits to the stock account >> > > in the same transaction, and the register is in Auto-Split view. >> > > Basic view does similar. >> > > I'd forgotten it does this because I just about always use Transaction >> > > Journal view. >> > > >> > > The Help manual says: Basic Ledger: The default one line per >> > > transaction style. >> > > >> > > This is confusing UI and I think I should document it. >> > > I think the screen shots should also be in Transaction Journal view or >> > > should mention why there appears to be duplicate transactions. >> > > Is anyone still working on the new register? >> > > >> > > I'm currently working on documenting using Lots with investments. >> > > >> > > Regards, >> > > Chris Good >> > >> > From: David T. [mailto:sunfis...@yahoo.com] >> > Sent: Tuesday, 2 August 2016 5:20 PM >> > To: Chris Good <chris.g...@ozemail.com.au> >> > Cc: John Ralls <jra...@ceridwen.us>; gnucash-devel@gnucash.org >> > Subject: Re: Guide Investment selling examples >> > >> > Chris, >> > >> > I agree that this is a confusing situation. In fact, in my own books, I >> have >> > decided to avoid such double-split entries by reporting each aspect as a >> > seprate transaction—that is, I create the sale transaction, and then I >> create a >> > separate transaction for the Gain or loss. This makes it possible to >> have the >> > descriptions match my expectation, and makes it easier for me to figure >> out >> > what the register is showing me. >> > >> > This problem does come up with new users, and so a brief note (perhaps >> in >> > the section that explains transactions) that informs users that a single >> > transaction will appear in a register as many times as there are splits >> for that >> > account. >> > >> > An additional idea might be to rewrite the capital gain section to show >> the >> > two aspects (the sale and the gain) as separate transactions. That would >> > clarify the process for new users, I think.There would still need to be >> the >> > note above, and I imagine a note explaining that the user can enter the >> > transaction as a single, multi-spilt entry. >> > >> > David T. >> >> Hi David, >> >> I agree. >> Anybody have any problems with the sale documentation being changed to >> show the capital gain transaction as a separate transaction from the sale, >> and explaining this is needed if scrubbing may be used in future? >> >> Regards, >> Chris Good >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> gnucash-devel mailing list >> gnucash-devel@gnucash.org >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel >> >> > > _______________________________________________ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
