On Aug 10, 2013, at 4:13 PM, John Ralls <jra...@ceridwen.us> wrote: > > On Aug 10, 2013, at 2:13 PM, Christian Stimming <christ...@cstimming.de> > wrote: > >> Hi John, >> >> I noticed you regularly delete spam pages in our wiki, which is a very good >> thing to do. As you and I and hopefully others have noticed, we now get >> approx. 1-5 spam pages created every day, which have to be deleted manually. >> >> This is even though new pages can be created by users who have been >> registered >> for more than x days. However, once you check the RecentChanges with a view >> mode that shows the new user registrations, we notice that every day there >> are >> approx. 50 new users being registered! Some of these will stay silent for a >> few days, then - after the waiting period is over - create the spam page. >> This >> way, the waiting period does nothing more than reducing the spam rate, but >> it >> doesn't cut it off completely anymore. This is the same for several months >> by >> now. >> >> I also don't have a good solution for this. I think I can contribute to a >> check of the RecentChanges every 1-3 days, so that this spam is deleted >> manually. (The keyboard shortcuts help a bit: Alt-Shift-D for choosing the >> page's hyperlink for "Delete this page", then Ctrl-A, Del for deleting the >> deletion reason, then Tab-Tab-Enter for really pressing the delete button, >> and >> all this with many browser tabs in parallel between which I navigate with >> Ctrl-PgUp/Down.) >> >> However, I noticed in your spam deletions that you deleted only the normal >> pages, but not the user pages of those spammers. Probably you look at the >> RecentChanges page only with the subset of "Namespace = (Main)". I look at >> this page with the choice "Namespace = all". The backside of this is that I >> see those 100 new users every day and the edits scattered in between. The >> upside is that I see also the newly created spam userpages (in the "User:" >> namespace), and then I delete those as well. Do you think you can check for >> those as well, or do we need other solutions for this? >> >> Other wikis around have disabled the normal user registration altogether for >> this very same reason, see e.g. http://elinux.org/Main_Page . Maybe this >> is >> a possibility for us as well? The vast majority of edits in the actual >> content >> is done by known developers from here. By this, we can argue that an >> increased >> restriction of the write access doesn't do much harm, but would make our >> life >> a lot easier. > > Christian, > > I get notified of changes via RSS to > http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Special:NewPages rather than RecentChanges, and > I check my RSS reader 2-3 times a day. > > I don't remember seeing any spammer-user who'd created a user page, and when > I follow the link to one that isn't blocked, I see the "not created" message > and have no option to delete it. I looked at the last 2000 users who "have > edits" and found none with User pages.Yet you delete a user page for everyone > you block. What am I missing? > > I'm absolutely in favor of taking a more aggressive approach. By shutting off > the > "normal" registration, do you mean that new users would require an > administrator to validate them?
The mediawiki manual has a long page on preventing and removing spam: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Combating_spam with links to other pages with still more information on the subject. Regards, John Ralls _______________________________________________ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
