On Nov 26, 2010, at 11:13 AM, Johann Wöckinger wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> so what do you mean with why do you open the database again? Maybe there is a 
> misunderstanding: I found no way to avoid the lock pop-up message; I just 
> launch gnucash and the pop-up window telling me about the locked database 
> comes immediately; at this point I have only three options:
> open, though (which leads to connect to the database last used) / create a 
> new file / end program.
> 
> 
> 
> regards,
> 
> Johann
> 
> 
> 
> Am 2010-11-26 15:54, schrieb John Ralls:
>> On Nov 26, 2010, at 6:23 AM, Johann Wöckinger wrote:
>> 
>>   
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> here are the answers:
>>> 
>>> I connect to a local postgres-database and I use linux (debian squeeze). I 
>>> use the hostname in the connectstring (not "localhost").
>>> Here are the process id observations:
>>> 
>>> after start of gnucash until pop-up with lock-message appears:
>>> 30525 ?        SLl    0:04 gnucash
>>> 30540 ?        Ss     0:00 postgres: hans gnucash 192.168.129.8(36175) idle
>>> 
>>> after selecting open though and gnucash up and running with active database 
>>> connection:
>>> 30525 ?        SLl    0:06 gnucash
>>> 30540 ?        Ss     0:00 postgres: hans gnucash 192.168.129.8(36175) idle
>>> 31429 ?        Ss     0:00 postgres: hans gnucash 192.168.129.8(47428) idle
>>> 
>>> in gnclock, the pid-entry is pid 30525
>>> entry in gnclock not deleted on closing gnucash (checked by inspecting the 
>>> database-entry)
>>> 
>>> So, gnucash makes two connections, and the lock-message is generated on 
>>> trying to make the 2nd one.
>>> 
>>> regards,
>>> J. Woeckinger
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Am 2010-11-26 02:31, schrieb John Ralls:
>>>     
>>>> On Nov 25, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Johann Wöckinger wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>       
>>>>> Yes, it's also in 2.3.17.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Am 2010-11-25 21:28, schrieb John Ralls:
>>>>> 
>>>>>         
>>>>>> On Nov 24, 2010, at 11:21 AM, Johann Wöckinger wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> since Version 2.3.16RC1, I notice the following message popup on 
>>>>>>> starting gnucash:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> GnuCash could not get exclusive write permission to postgres://.........
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> with some explaination for reasons for that.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It seems, that gnucash does not delete the lock entry in the database 
>>>>>>> (table: gnclock) when closing the application (I found the lock entry 
>>>>>>> still in the database table after closing gnucash), so it comes up with 
>>>>>>> this warning on startup, which can be overridden on selecting "open" - 
>>>>>>> but its somewhat annoying.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> This behaviour was not observed in former releases of the 2.3.x series.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Would be nice to have the former behavior.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>> Have you seen this with 2.3.17? It sounds like a duplicate of 
>>>>>> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=634392, which was fixed for 
>>>>>> 2.3.17.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>           
>>>> Well, that's annoying, because I don't see the problem on my development 
>>>> system.
>>>> 
>>>> Are you connecting to a local (on the same machine) or network psql server?
>>>> On what OS are you running Gnucash? If you're connecting to psql on a 
>>>> different machine, what OS is it running? What version of psql?
>>>> 
>>>> Please start gnucash and find its PID and the hostname of the machine 
>>>> running Gnucash. Then quit Gnucash and, from psql, do "select * from 
>>>> gnclock". Are the hostnames and PIDs the same?
>>>> 
>>>> At the end of gnucash.trace is there a warning about not finding the lock?
>>>> 
>>>>       
>> Well, that's a use-case I hadn't considered. Why do you open the database 
>> again after Gnucash has already opened it for you?
>> 
>> To change the behavior, Gnucash would have to close and unlock the old 
>> connection before opening the new one. If the open failed, it would have 
>> nothing open and would present a blank window, where now if the open fails 
>> it keeps the old connection (which for most users will be a different 
>> database).
>> 
>> Please, let's keep this on the list. Use "reply all" (or "reply list" if 
>> your mail client can do that).

Ah, sorry, I misunderstood what you said here:

>>> after selecting open though and gnucash up and running with active database 
>>> connection:

To mean that you were selecting File>Open when you mean that you're selecting 
"Open anyway".

Please do the "select * from gnclock" three times: After launch when the 
"locked" dialog box is displayed, after you have dismissed the dialog, and 
after you have closed the program and post the results.

Regards,
John Ralls

> 
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