> > > From: dantr...@mirthil.org [mailto:dantr...@mirthil.org] > > > Sent: Wednesday, 24 June, 2015 17:40 > > > To: john.frank...@outlook.com > > > Subject: Re: gnome-3.16.x without systemd > > > > > > I came across your post by chance. To answer your question, it is indeed > > > possible for GNOME 3.16 to work without systemd. > > > I have actually been maintaining a patchset that reintegrates support for > > > Session Tracking and Power Management. > > > A recent version of the most directly related files can be found here: > > > https://bugs.funtoo.org/browse/FL-2485 > > > I have a newer version but I'm not quite ready to share it. > > > If you let me know what operating system you use, I may to be able to > > > help you expedite matters. > > > In fact, if you use Gentoo or Funtoo Linux you can be using GNOME 3.16 > > > without systemd as fast as you can compile it. > > > > > > > Thanks for the positive feedback. > > > > I'm using the 64-bit version of tinycorelinux on which I have gnome-3.10.x > > working without problems. > > > > I've compiled everything for gnome-3.16.x, but cannot post the various > > extensions (packages) > > to the tinycorelinux repo as gnome-session will not run. > > As posted, gnome-shell fails to register with gnome-session, but without > > any error messages to go on, I'm unable to fix things. > > I had a quick look at the site you mention, but I don't see any patches > > that stand out as being likely to fix my problem? > > > I am not actually familiar with tinycorenetwork but what I do know is that > GNOME 3.16 should actually work as-is > (although with reduced features), if you don't use GDM (as in 3.16 ConsoleKit > support was removed) > and if you force clutter to use the X11 backend (as the other backends > require systemd, as far as I can tell). > > My patchset is further down on that page under the attachment section. > Here's a direct link: > http://files.mirthil.org/dantrell-portage-overlays.tar.xz (mind, this will > only stay live for a while longer). > You will mostly be interested in any package that applies a > *restore-deprecated-code.patch file > but you will also want to look at what configure options are being passed > regarding consolekit and systemd, > especially if you intend to use GDM. Only a few packages not in that > attachment are not very relevant to your purposes. > > You wouldn't by chance be using ConsoleKit2 (any version greater than 0.4.6)? > Because when I tested GNOME 3.16 against that, I believe things went > similarly haywire. > Also, if you manage to things working but find that native applications don't > launch/work, > double check that clutter is using an appropriate backend as I mentioned > earlier. >
Thanks - to answer some of your questions: 1. I don't know what backend clutter is using, but I don't get any clutter errors and using CLUTTER_BACKEND=x11 doesn't change anything. 2. I'm not using gdm. 3. I've tried with both consolekit-0.4.6 and consolekit2 and neither give any error messages. I already reverted the consolekit changes to gnome-shell-3.16 and applied your revert patch to gnome-settings-daemon, but unfortunately this did not help. In general I compiled the various packages against upower-0.99.2 except where they would not (telepathy-mission-control) and against consolekit. I don't see any particular configure switches in your tarball that I've missed. I have not compiled gnome-bluetooth-3.16 as the version of udev in tinycorelinux is too old for this, but other than that everything I know of is present. I'm starting gnome-session with a wrapper script: ck-launch-session dbus-launch --exit-with-session gnome-session2 --autostart=/usr/local/etc/xdg/autostart --debug ..which gives the attached output - as you can see there's nothing to indicate why gnome-shell fails to register and I'm unable to get any debug output from gnome-shell. It's possible I might be missing a runtime dep as opposed to having a consolekit problem, but without error messages it's impossible to tell. John
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