On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 11:16 AM, alex diavatis <alexis.diava...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >a concrete proposal would be to add more people to the pool of > >available reviewers, to reduce the waiting time; this means that we > >should find a way to contact the active and experienced extension > >developers and have them spend some time reviewing other extensions. > > Keeping on mind the importance of Shell Extensions for GNOME (users and > contributors), > the challenge here is how you can give an extra boost, an extra motivation > to people. > > >maybe have a pre-review process that is meant to reduce the work load > >of the Shell developers, so that the obvious, time consuming stuff is > >screened first. > > Simple and it will work. Using Karma (for authors), having pending-review > extensions, and in general all the usual stuffs, might also work. > > Anyway, thanks for your response Emmanuele and I hope you to find a good > way to deal with it! > OK, I should come out and say it instead of holding back for so long. The extensions website is unmaintained. I am not working on it anymore, and I am not going to work on it. I'm not interested in supporting infrastructure for shell extensions anymore. I do not have the time, nor motivation, nor energy to add any new feature to the website, like a complex auto-karma system like Bodhi. Anybody who wants to take over maintenance of the site can contact me privately. I am very willing to answer questions about the site's codebase and how it's put together. - alex > > > > On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 5:29 PM, Emmanuele Bassi <eba...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 22 April 2014 15:18, alex diavatis <alexis.diava...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > What if 500 extensions with monthly updates? >> >> I strongly doubt this will ever be the case, but giving up and just >> letting bad extensions find their way in the machines of our users >> because somebody, somewhere, may have written an extension that is not >> just a reimplementation of something that was available in GNOME 2.x >> and wants *all* users to use it is just not going to happen, as long >> as extensions are served from a gnome.org machine. the reputation of >> the whole project is staked on not harming our users, or letting third >> parties harm them by our omission. >> >> a concrete proposal would be to add more people to the pool of >> available reviewers, to reduce the waiting time; this means that we >> should find a way to contact the active and experienced extension >> developers and have them spend some time reviewing other extensions. >> maybe have a pre-review process that is meant to reduce the work load >> of the Shell developers, so that the obvious, time consuming stuff is >> screened first. >> >> fact is: the amount of people writing code is smaller than the user >> base; and the amount of people capable of reviewing code is smaller >> than the amount of people writing code. by coupling these two facts >> you get that there will always be a certain delay and bottleneck. I'm >> not sure how long is the queue for Firefox extensions, but I'm pretty >> sure that it's not shorter than the one in the Shell — and Firefox has >> more reviewers, as well as more extension developers. >> >> ciao, >> Emmanuele. >> >> > On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 4:52 PM, Emmanuele Bassi <eba...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> hi; >> >> >> >> On 22 April 2014 14:40, alex diavatis <alexis.diava...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> > The question here is why GNOME Devs should explicitly review the >> >> > extensions? >> >> >> >> because extensions run in the same process space as the window >> >> manager, which is a privileged piece of software. >> >> >> >> > Add a notice that we aren't responsible for the quality of extensions >> >> >> >> this is not a matter of quality: it's a matter of shipping an >> >> extension from a gnome.org website that can do whatever it wants with >> >> the input and output of your system. >> >> >> >> > and let users review them. >> >> >> >> this is even worse than not having anybody reviewing them. >> >> >> >> > If possible have just some automated tests. >> >> >> >> it's not possible, unless you can write tools that manage to >> >> understand the intent of the code. >> >> >> >> ciao, >> >> Emmanuele. >> >> >> >> > On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 4:21 PM, Sam Bull <sam.hack...@sent.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> On mar, 2014-04-22 at 08:51 -0400, Norman L. Smith wrote: >> >> >> > My entry in the queue is recent (less than two weeks ago, there >> is no >> >> >> > personal complaint). I understand extensions are adjuncts to the >> >> >> > shell >> >> >> > and other priorities will always come before them. >> >> >> >> >> >> From what I can tell, it seems that there is only one person >> reviewing >> >> >> extensions. This results in the queue only being reviewed like >> every 2 >> >> >> months or something, which causes long delays (I'm just an extension >> >> >> dev >> >> >> myself). I'm guessing there's just nobody else volunteering to help >> >> >> with >> >> >> reviews. >> >> >> >> >> >> Maybe if some kind of public call was put out, it might be possible >> to >> >> >> find more some more reviewers, in order to improve this experience. >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> gnome-shell-list mailing list >> >> >> gnome-shell-list@gnome.org >> >> >> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> > gnome-shell-list mailing list >> >> > gnome-shell-list@gnome.org >> >> > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> W: http://www.emmanuelebassi.name >> >> B: http://blogs.gnome.org/ebassi/ >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> W: http://www.emmanuelebassi.name >> B: http://blogs.gnome.org/ebassi/ >> > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-shell-list mailing list > gnome-shell-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list > > -- Jasper
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