On Fri, 2013-02-22 at 14:08 +0000, Gabriel Rossetti wrote:
> Yes, I forgot to mention the multi-monitor thing, you are right. I
> think we should make a list of the pros/cons of it, here is my updated
> list of cons (sorry, I can't find any pros but please fill the list in
> if you have some):

This is an entirely academic exercise unless developers are
participating this this thread.  Just saying - it might be pointless.
This is primarily a *users* list.

> Cons:
>  1) impractical with multi-monitor setup: your window is on one monitor but 
> you have to go to the monitor with the top panel/AppMenu to select the menu 
> items.
>  2) confusing to have menu items/options in two places: in the menu bar and 
> in the AppMenu situated on the top panel of the main screen. You could offer 
> the option to have one or the other but it should be a CHOICE, if the user 
> chooses to have it then the menu bar disappears and the menu is put into the 
> AppMenu (like in Firefox), if the user chooses not to have it then the 
> AppMenu disappears and is rendered in the Menu bar if it is really needed, if 
> not then it is not rendered at all.
>  3) it completely breaks sloppy mouse window focus (where you focus
> the windows just by moving the mouse over them without clicking): when
> you move the mouse away from the application to access the AppMenu it
> either, de-focuses thus the AppMenu does too, or it focuses on a
> window that "unfortunately" was in the path to the AppMenu thus the
> AppMenu switches to it.

Well, #3 is factually *NOT* true.  There was a bug for this, but it has
since been closed - because it was RESOLVED.  I am using sloppy focus in
GNOME Shell and the app menu works just fine.

Ah, here it is.
<https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=678169>

Personally I would add

4) Most of the time there is little to anything useful in it.  Often it
contains the option "Quit".

My 4 would be 3.... since I do not accept your 3.

-- 
Adam Tauno Williams  GPG D95ED383
Systems Administrator, Python Developer, LPI / NCLA

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