----- Original Message -----
> From: Clemens <clem...@lab21.org>
> To: Jonathan Wilkes <jancs...@yahoo.com>
> Cc: "awill...@whitemice.org" <awill...@whitemice.org>;
> "gnome-shell-list@gnome.org" <gnome-shell-list@gnome.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 7:05 AM
> Subject: Re: Gnome Shell Extensions isn't shipped with Gnome Shell, WHY?!
>
> Am Mi 22 Aug 2012 12:57:12 CEST schrieb Jonathan Wilkes:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Adam Tauno Williams <awill...@whitemice.org>
>>> To: gnome-shell-list@gnome.org
>>> Cc:
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 6:23 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Gnome Shell Extensions isn't shipped with Gnome Shell,
> WHY?!
>>>
>>> On Tue, 2012-08-21 at 19:12 +0200, Florian Scandella wrote:
>>>> I like how gnome uses
>>>> (and drives) development of freedesktop standards instead of
> reinventing
>>>> everything and hacking arount short term limitations.
>>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>>> So while i'm happy with gnome-shell, i'm all for
> integrating some
>>> of the
>>>> most used extensions into the core, with an option to
> enable/disable them.
>>>
>>> I disagree, core should remain thin so people can easily go in
> whatever
>>> direction they want. Verses the old first-I-go-remove-all-this-crap.
>>
>> How much "thicker" does the core get by having a restart menu
> item in the
>> status menu?
>>
>> -Jonathan
>>
>>>
>>> Note that distributions can bundle and enable whatever extensions they
>>> want. openSUSE packages several. And distribution packages of GNOME
>>> are what end-users actually install and use.
>>>
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> As far is i know, the poweroff/reboot buttons were removed/are hidden
> because
> suspend is a) more efficient (time + powerconsumption)
To turn off the computer takes (let's say) 20 seconds. To turn it on takes
(say) 40 seconds. Entering/leaving suspend mode takes (say) 7.5 seconds.
So the questions are: how much time in suspend mode is equal to the power
used by 45 seconds of running my laptop at normal power, and is that time less
than or greater than the average amount of time I'm leaving my computer in
suspend mode?
Looking forward to reading your citation on this one.
-Jonathan
> b) many people
> only use
> suspend and never poweroff there macine c) suspend is working an nearly
> all devices
>
> (most of the time a shutdown my notebook using a terminal )
>
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