On Thu, 2011-05-26 at 21:17 +0100, Martin Häsler wrote: > On 05/26/2011 08:40 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Thu, 2011-05-26 at 20:24 +0100, Martin Häsler wrote: > >> Here in Germany people power off their desktops and then switch off the > >> power extension, > >> because electricity is not cheap and we value our environment. (That > >> used to be mandatory > >> at my old job) > > Generalizations don't really help anything. You're sure you speak for > > all Germans? And I represent all evil Americans, even though I'm not > > one? :) > Apologies for mistaking you for an American, although I never said > anything about evil.
I am an evil American. *Everyone* I know suspends. Powering off and on just wastes time. If we aren't talking about suspend/resume we end up talking about how to improve boot times because of what a pain it is to boot-up [you may have noticed a lot of traffic about that recently on various lists]. Personally, I hibernate rather than suspend. But for no real reason. > At least my "generalizations" are based on observations of family, > friends and workplace and the See my generalizations as above. When I advise people to power-off rather than suspend [there are some cases where that is appropriate] they look at me like I'm stoned. > fact that energy saving power extensions sell very well in Germany. > You, on the other hand, deduced from your lazy behaviour of never > turning your desktop > off, that that is the norm. Off course if you power *off* at a power-strip, etc... then not even Wake-On-LAN can get the machine to start-up for updates, maintainance, scheduled jobs, etc... I insist that my 200+ users never power-off their workstations - and will continue to do so. > Please read this link: > http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/ethicallivingblog/2007/nov/02/pulltheplugonstandby > before you think we are talking about peanuts here. Yes, I'm aware of all that. But in the end it is just bogus. Power plants operate to match base-load requirements; unplugging your 1W whatever doesn't reduce CO2 emissions or fuel consumption AT ALL, NONE, ZILCH. The real-world doesn't work that way; the system is too layered with too many structural [possibly unavoidable] inefficiencies. > Also note, people don't power off their phones because you won't receive > any calls when a phone > is powered off. I don't see how this is comparable to the computer > world. My MP3 Player only > does power off, on the other hand (iaudio). A workstation / desktop can too quite a bit while I'm away. _______________________________________________ gnome-shell-list mailing list gnome-shell-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list
