On Fri, 2011-05-13 at 23:02 +0100, Tim Murphy wrote: > On 13 May 2011 21:55, Adam Tauno Williams <awill...@whitemice.org> > wrote: > On Fri, 2011-05-13 at 14:10 -0400, Gerald Henriksen wrote: > > >Last I checked, GNOME never only allowed "one way" to use the > desktop. > > >Even with GNOME 3, which I admit isn't the most customizable thing > in > >>the world (though I don't mind), there's quite a few ways to use> > >>your desktop. You could go mouse-only, keyboard-only, keyboard >>>mouse... You >> While mouse only is possible in Gnome 3, it is horribly inefficient. > As it is in GNOME2 and every other UI. The use is merely has merely > gotten used to how inefficient it is.
Meant was: "The user has merely gotten used to how inefficient it is" > I think he's saying that it's better in Gnome 2 and that he hasn't > forgotten anything. We are, after all, talking about a "Graphical" > user interface rather than invisible capabilities like hotkeys. Right, in GNOME2 I installed GNOME-Do so that I could <WIN>+Space, w, r, i, <enter> to launch LibreOffice Writer. With GNOME3 I don't have to install anything; replace <WIN>+Space with <ALT>+F1. *ALWAYS* faster than mouse to launcher. > >>2. "For example, in trying to make the launching of applications > >>easier and freer of error, both eliminated the classic main menu in > >>favor of displays that occupy the entire desktop. This arrangement >>>does improve the launching of applications -- but it does so at the >>> cost of obscuring the windows that are already open >>During the act of launching an application: why do you care about the > >windows that are already open? I never do. >One reason is that one is launching something to use it with other > stuff - it's part of your overal task and it's a discontinuity to have >to disappear out of your context while you are working. You might >think of applications as big things you stick around in whereas I might >think of them as lots of little palettes that am constructing into a >set to accomplish my task. e.g. just imagine using this kind of thing >in a paint program - where you had to change screens to pick the >"circle" tool so that you could draw circles - would that make any >sense? I think this analysis is false; I don't perform a menial task such as drawing a circle in one application using another application. I typically use numerous applications at one time [Monodevelop, GNOME Terminal, Wireshark, gedit, nautilus, LibreOffice Writer, and DbVisualizer]. I've never noticed that the brief switch to the activity view interupted my flow [and more than the brief appearance of GNOME-Do]. All the windows return to exactly where they were before. > >I really don't understand the fuss about "launching applications is > >slower/harder". Who cares? It isn't hard. And how often does one > >launch an application? Rarely; it certainly can't account for but >>an infintesimal amount of overall usage. If you really launch >>something over and over - assign a key binding [nothing is faster >>than that]. >I launch shells and editors and file managers and remote desktop >clients a lot. It's a GUI - I don't expect to have to use hotkeys to >overcome it's deficiencies and if one is at the point where "make a >hotkey" is the answer then the GUI is obviously no up to snuff. > What I actually want, personally, is the GUI equivalent of hotkeys. And GNOME3 provides exactly that - Alt+F1 and type the first few characters of the application name. _______________________________________________ gnome-shell-list mailing list gnome-shell-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list
