Whoops. I meant 'pm-is-supported', I was just being an idiot when I wrote
the email. I'm also even more of an idiot and got the exit statuses
reversed:

  pm-is-supported --suspend && echo "Not Supported" || echo "Supported"

pm-utils is the package that has all this stuff:
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/pm-utils/

On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 9:26 AM, Adam Tauno Williams
<awill...@whitemice.org>wrote:

> On Sun, 2011-05-01 at 23:40 -0400, Jasper St. Pierre wrote:
> > I'm not suggesting the Terminal for everyday usage. I'm just trying to
> > get some hardware and pm-utils stats so we can solve the problem for
> > other users... all that command will do is print out "Supported" or
> > "Not Supported", just as a starting point for the hellish journey
> > ahead of us: Debugging Linux Power Management
>
> Is "pm-utils" [mentioned below] meant to be a literal command?
>
> I have no such command [openSUSE 11.4 x86_64].  I have
> "pm-is-supported", both "pm-is-supported --hibernate" and
> "pm-is-supported --suspend" produce no output and have an exit status of
> zero (which according to the man page means "State available".
>
> Suspend worked perfectly for this laptop with GNOME 2.32; after the
> update suspend/resume is lethal.  System resumes to a black screen with
> a pointer and usually, but not always, some artifact of a window in the
> center of the screen.  Ctrl-Alt-F1 will take me to a console where I can
> kill X and log in again.


Obviously that's not supposed to happen..

All gnome-shell does is defer this to UPower, and the Linux backend
eventually calls pm-utils.

Can you try running '/usr/sbin/pm-suspend' and see what happens? It could be
a fault of gnome-screensaver's locking stuff.


> I've also walked away from the machine and come back, twice, to find a
> black screen with nothing but a pointer with even Ctrl-Alt-F1 not
> working.  But while I'm using it GNOME 3 has been fast and stable;  I
> just can't turn my back on it.
>

That sounds even more like the fault of the screensaver.


> In System Settings / Power I've unchecked both "On AC Power" and "On
> Battery" suspend options.
>
> nVidia Corporation GT216 [GeForce GT 230M] (rev a2)
> NVIDIA GPU GeForce GT 230M (GT216) at PCI:1:0:0 (GPU-0)
> 2.6.37.6-0.5-desktop
>

Are you running nvidia proprietary or nouveau?


> > On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 11:25 PM, Allan E. Registos
> > <allan.regis...@smpc.steniel.com.ph> wrote:
> >         >         Generally I like the gnome philosophy of simplifying
> >         >         things by removing options. But leaving
> >         >         non-technical users with a default setting that does
> >         >         not work is not a good choice
> >         > Can you give us some hardware details, and try:
> >         >   pm-utils --suspend && echo "Supported" || echo "Not
> >         > supported"
>
>
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