On Fri, 2010-11-12 at 10:08 +0100, Guillaume Desmottes wrote: > > Finally, Empathy's full name in its desktop file should be changed to > > Chat. The design is that applications that are part of the desktop > > platform (like File Browser, Calculator, etc.) should always have > > unbranded names, and applications that sit on top (such as Firefox, for > > instance) should have branded names. Empathy is considered part of the > > desktop. > > That's https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=631476 > > I'm still unsure about this. We recently splitted the text handler to > its own process (empathy-chat) so the "empathy" binary is now purely the > contact list; renaming it to "Chat" seems a bit weird as the chatting > part is actually done by empathy-chat. > > Atm, empathy-chat doesn't any UI when it's manually started (it just > display chats when handling text channels) but we could imagine adding > one at some point.
In the design of GNOME 3 Every window must belong to an application Every application must have a window, possibly hidden [*] Since user isn't going to be able to manage the concept of two different chat applications that handle half of the job, both empathy-chat and empathy should appear as "Chat" to the user. I think you can do this by after GTK+ is initialized by calling: gdk_set_program_class ("Empathy"); (Where "Empathy" matches empathy.desktop with an initial capital). Alternatively, you could on a window basis do: gtk_window_set_wmclass (window, "empathy-chat", "Empathy"); You need to do this for all toplevels, but don't need to do it for dialogs with a parent. (If set_program_class works, I'd just do it that way.) When the Empathy desktop file is clicked, currently the Contact list should appear as the best proxy for a "chat application" window. From discussion at the summit, it seems like the long term direction here is likely be to make the main Empathy window more of a "recent conversations" window and less of a contact list. (GNOME will have it's own all-sources contact-list in 3.2 or so.) Another thing that I think is part of the overall picture is that Empathy should be "sticky": - If you run Empathy and it isn't already autostarted, it should add itself to the GNOME autostart. - If you explicitly quit Empathy, either through the contact list window menu or through the application menu [**], it should remove itself from autostart. The idea here is that being online isn't an activity that you "choose to do" when you log in to the computer, it's a state. You shouldn't have to think "I want to chat with someone" before someone can chat with you. And you shouldn't have to find some obscure option to make it autostart. - Owen [*] Hidden isn't really worked out yet, but I think the current Empathy behavior buddy list behavior in GNOME Shell where if you click the X on the window, it "minimizes", and you have to go to the Activities Overview or alt-Tab to get to it again is OK for the moment. Having clicking the X button sign you out of chat if and only if you have no chat windows open would be too weird. [**] Currently the quit menu in the application menu just closes all the windows, so isn't distinguishable as a "quit" action, but a working application is a must-have for 3.0. _______________________________________________ gnome-shell-list mailing list gnome-shell-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list