ah GCDS...

Getting GNOME Do into GNOME superficially sounds like a fantastic and
fun idea. I think there is a lot to be gained by being inside of GNOME.
However, like you, I see the baggage this brings along as a little too
much. Moving our bug tracker, source code, release policies, and
website, while sucky, are only secondary blockers to me. The big one to
me is the "extra work commitments", which provide an additional burden I
do not think our dev team can handle in its current condition. We have 5
core members, all of whom have what can be only described as a part-time
commitment to GNOME Do when at any time any of us may be required to
walk away for an extended period of time.

What I am getting at here is I think we do best when we have the freedom
to work when we can on what we can, and not have additional upstream
requirements on our work times. Ultimately, I think being forced to work
on tools not of our choice means we will be slowed down further. For
these poorly stated and quickly typed reasons, I think we should stay
outside of GNOME.

Jason  

On Mon, 2009-07-06 at 16:27 +0100, David Siegel wrote:
> A lot of people at Gran Canaria Desktop Summit are asking about
> getting Do into GNOME, and I am having trouble seeing the benefit for
> us. Switching to Git/GNOME infrastructure strikes me as a step in the
> wrong direction, but people are interested so I thought I would share
> this with the list to see if anyone has thoughts.
> 
> http://live.gnome.org/ReleasePlanning/ModuleProposing
> 
> Here is my understanding of the situation: for the last ten years,
> GNOME made all of its own applications. In recent years, independent
> application authors emerged from the GNOME community, developing
> applications on their own but with the intent of eventually getting
> them into GNOME. When I started Do, I just wanted to create a great
> free software application that was fun, exciting to hack, and
> incredibly useful. Together we have built an incredible project, with
> hundreds of thousands of active users, awesome contributors, excellent
> development and design practices, distro adoption, and vision. When
> people started suggesting GNOME inclusion, I said "GNOME can do
> whatever it wants, just like the distros -- if they want to include
> Do, go for it." Then I was told that inclusion in GNOME would put
> extra work commitments on us, and put extra constraints on details
> like where we host our website and wiki, where our source lives, how
> we handle bugs and translations, etc. I am all for GNOME inclusion,
> but I think our project should operate completely independently of the
> GNOME project, not be absorbed by it. As far as I can tell, our
> project doesn't need GNOME oversight, endorsement, or infrastructure.
> If extra work needs to be done for GNOME inclusion, GNOME contributors
> should do that work.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> David
> 
> > 


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