Hi folks, as promised, but somewhat late, a summary of what happened at the GUADEC that touched accessibility. Joanmarie, Juanjo Marin, Alejandro Leiva, Javier Hernandez, Daniel García and others were also there, so they can send a summary if I forgot or just don't know something.
* Before GUADEC: UX hackfest [1]. I have been there. It was really convenient (it was organized on the same office I work every days), it would be good to be informed about new features and designs, and it was a good place to talk about some design related issues that affects these days accessibility. I talked a little with Allan Day, Cosimo and Meg Ford, but in general I was more a listener of the hackfest, as I talked more about accessibility stuff with Allan on the a11yCamp (later) * Presentations about accessibility: I made two presentations about the status of the union of the accessibility team on GNOME. A little one at the Advisory Annual General Meeting (AGM) (where each team made the same), and a bigger one as a official GUADEC talk. This last one didn't have too many people. The main reasons were that it was the first talk of the morning of the last GUADEC day, and scheduled at the same time that other really interesting talks (like the GStreamer one). Taking that into account I'm not sure it it is worth to do again that 25 minutes talk about the status of the accessibility. The main reason is that I'm already doing that presentation at the AGM, and the advantage of the AGM is that I will have more people listening (as the AGM doesn't have any other talks at the same time). At this moment I think that next year the AGM status of the union talk would be enough, and that if I propose a accessibility-related talk it will be to talk about something specific, not the general status. My only concern is that AGM presentation is just 5 minutes long. * GUADEC had two Wayland related presentations. On the first one ("Wayland for application authors") I asked to Rob Bradford (the speaker) if it would be possible in Wayland to insert synthetic keyboard and mouse events, and if it would be possible to watch to all those events. This is related to the task of remove the key snooping from the accessibility framework (more info on this X related thread [12]). Robert answered that right now it is not possible, they didn't thought about that, but there is still time to discussion. On the second one ("Gnome Shell as a Wayland compositor"), Bastien Nocera made a similar question. He asked about the possibilities to extend gnome shell as a wayland compositor, mentioning accessibility as one of the use cases. Rober Bragg (one of the speakers) answered that the Wayland protocol supports an easy way to add extensions. It can be done first on any specific compositor (ie:gnome shell), and then move that to Wayland itself if it is interesting. Taking into account the lack of answer from X developers (except in the case of Alan Coopersmith that was always willing to help), I added on my TODO an action item of sending a mail to those people in order to initiate that "discussion". * a11yCamp [2] we have a two days of unconference style hackfest. There we talked with others teams, and hacked a little. Next bullet items are all a11yCamp stuff. * Bug triagging [3]: Andre Kappler came to the a11y camp, as he was interested to know more about how to triage accessibility bugs. Joanmarie prepared some slides and tests (you can find those here [3]), and made a presentation about it. We also talked with Andre about how the accessibility team could be aware of new accessibility bugs on others modules, as the keyword "accessibility" is good to classify, but doesn't allow subscription. Andre started a proposal on d-d-l [4] * Hacking on evince: Daniel Garcia was trying to get back the accessibility support that evince had [5]. After a little review this a little during the a11yCamp, we found that was a problem related with how the factories are used on gtk+ since the beginning of this year, as third party gtk+ applications were using them to extend the gtk accessibility objects. In my opinion, what gtk+ should do now is make public the accessibility headers. I started a thread on gtk-devel mailing list [6]. Some answers at the beginning, somewhat stagnated now, not a conclusion yet. * Accessible Email clients [7]: we didn't have any people from Evolution or Thunderbird people, but we had some Yorba developers. They are working on an email client called Geary [8]. As it is and gtk+ application and its mail view is based on WebKitGTK the good news is that after a Joanmarie review, a lot of the interface is already accessible. Yorba developers expressed their interest on making Geary accessible, and also made some questions about how to detect and triage accessibility bugs. Joanmarie pointed them the same slides that we used for the bug triaging part, and she gave them an introduction. * Sugar/OLPC [8]: some people from OLPC, Sugar and Dextrose were also around. They showed the interest of accessibility, and we were talking about different approaches and challenges. The usual sugar OS boot uses several custom widgets (so they would require custom accessibility). But they also allow to boot using GNOME. * As he was around, I asked Allan Day to come to the a11yCamp room in order to talk about some stuff. We talked a little about the new color options at the zoom magnifier [10], but mainly about the problems of Orca users accessing some elements of the top panel, like current wifi or battery charge [11]. After that we made a global review about the status of the keyboard navigation on gnome shell, talked about keybindings and all that stuff. * Mario Sanchez detected a security problem related with input entries with passwords on WebKitGTK. He solved that. BR [1] https://live.gnome.org/Hackfests/UXACoruna2012 [2] https://live.gnome.org/Accessibility/BoFs/A11yCamp2012 [3] https://live.gnome.org/Accessibility/BoFs/A11yCamp2012/BugTriaging [4] https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2012-July/msg00126.html [5] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=677348 [6] https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-devel-list/2012-August/msg00001.html [7] https://live.gnome.org/Accessibility/BoFs/A11yCamp2012#Accessible_Email_Clients [8] http://yorba.org/geary/ [9] https://live.gnome.org/Accessibility/BoFs/A11yCamp2012#Sugar.2BAC8-OLPC_Accessibility [10] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=676817 [11] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=667439 [12] https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-accessibility-list/2012-May/msg00007.html -- Alejandro Piñeiro Iglesiasb _______________________________________________ gnome-accessibility-list mailing list gnome-accessibility-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-accessibility-list