On 1/1/12, Joanmarie Diggs <jdi...@igalia.com> wrote: > Based on what you, Halim, and Bill have stated it sounds like an RFE > should be filed in bugzilla against Gtk requesting a change in how this > widget behaves. And then engage the Gtk community to hopefully find a > resolution that works for everyone.
Hi, Joanmarie. Everyone here probably has discovered that I am in fact somewhat of an ass hole, at least when I don't get what I want in accessibility. Richard Stallman heard that I am working as a volunteer coder for free software accessibility, and asked that I try and work with the Gnome community. I told him that I am likely not welcome by the GTK team, as I've electronically shouted as loudly as possible at them, without any effect. Given my past inability to get any action at all from the GTK team, and given how they likely feel about my complaining about it, I'm not sure that I can engage the GTK team to find resolutions. In the end, I am a coder, not a politician. I'm happy to track down bugs like the locking up of the desktop when GTK+ widgets are draw from another thread while at-spi is running. I just can't find a way to diplomatically deal with people who are not passionate about accessibility. What I hear so far is "reformat the patch", "submit it as a Gail bug, not a GTK bug", and "I don't think thats the right approach". What I need to be a passionate supporter of GTK accessibility is a developer who says "your approach sucks, but I fixed it, and committed an accessibility upgrade". This takes actual time, work, and passion for a11y. In my experience, there is no substitute for this. People like me can submit patches and tests and work like heck jumping through never ending hoops, but I don't believe we can succeed in making progress without help from the team that maintains the code. I am huge fan of your work with Orca. I'll continue trying to help projects where guys like me can contribute. If there is a way for a coder like me to help make GTK work properly, I'm interested. Otherwise, I'll find somewhere else to be useful. Thanks, Bill _______________________________________________ gnome-accessibility-list mailing list gnome-accessibility-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-accessibility-list