Hi Tom, its the self-deluded megalomaniac who thinks he has solved all of the world's problems with a simple remix of Ubuntu. I think the key here is to remember that this distro is not really aimed at Linux users at all - but visually impaired users who maybe haven't even heard of linux before. I am trying to 'sell it' (for free remember) to teachers, trainers, colleges and institutions in the UK who probably have never heard of or used Linux before. When promoting something it is usually to emphasise its strengths rather than weaknesses. No one is going to sell many cars if they use the slogan, 'its OK, its pretty much like other models really'. In the same spirit that Carlsberg claim to brew 'probably the best larger in the world', I have claimed to have produced 'the first fully accessible version of Linux for visually impaired users who have never used Linux before'. It has certainly got peoples attention and a bit of a debate going! You know that I don't take myself that seriously, but I think you would have to agree that Vibuntu, even though it still needs lots of work, is probably the only Linux distro that you or I know of that could be booted and experimented with by someone with no experience of Linux, who would have no chance of being able to configure it themselves without support and/or sighted help. I think a lot of people in the Linux VI community forget just how difficult it is to get into Linux, and the fact they they are so technically competant themselves etc makes them lose sight of the fact that the vast majority of VI users are not hackers and have no ambitions to be so. They just want to browse the web, send a few e-mails or write a letter etc. If Vibuntu helps just a few people kick their dependancy on microsoft than I will consider it a time well spent. (What would you rather be doing - translating T3 scripts into Welsh or tinkering with Ubuntu?) Yours in humble modesty, drbongo.
-----Original Message----- From: ubuntu-accessibility-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com on behalf of Thomas Lloyd Sent: Sun 14/12/2008 22:02 To: ubuntu-accessibil...@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: Vibuntu the most accessible Ubuntu Linux live cd for theVisually Impaired EVA III I also agree that the claim of the first accessible Linux is a tad far fetched and maybe the most accessible Ubuntu Linux live cd for the Visually Impaired. Is more accurate? We all fall victim to claims of self grandeur at times, especially when it our baby. I think that the proof is in the pudding as Tony has said himself the community will decide. I have no issues with slightly misleading marketing if it saves any disabled people money and opens up more opportunity for them. This is not to undermine what has been done in the past by other groups and if there are better products for those people they will find them. But we all need a starting point and if you are forced to spend a small fortune to start on a computer many people who can, either can not or don't. So all in all keep up the good work make sure you add in a feature that forces the user to change their password at least and maybe their username after an install and I will stop worrying about security. NL -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list ubuntu-accessibil...@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility Confidentiality: This e-mail and its attachments are intended for the above named only and may be confidential. If they have come to you in error you must take no action based on them, nor must you copy or show them to anyone: please reply to this e-mail and highlight the error to the sender. Security Warning: Please note that e-mail has been created in the knowledge that the Internet e-mail is not a 100% secure communication medium. We advise that you understand and observe this lack of security when e-mailing us. Viruses: Although we have taken steps to ensure that this e-mail and attachments are free from any virus, we advised that in keeping with good computing practice the recipient should ensure they are actually virus free. Confidentiality: This e-mail and its attachments are intended for the above named only and may be confidential. If they have come to you in error you must take no action based on them, nor must you copy or show them to anyone: please reply to this e-mail and highlight the error to the sender. Security Warning: Please note that e-mail has been created in the knowledge that the Internet e-mail is not a 100% secure communication medium. We advise that you understand and observe this lack of security when e-mailing us. Viruses: Although we have taken steps to ensure that this e-mail and attachments are free from any virus, we advised that in keeping with good computing practice the recipient should ensure they are actually virus free. _______________________________________________ gnome-accessibility-list mailing list gnome-accessibility-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-accessibility-list
