All,

I'm running Fedora 8 with the Compiz-Fusion 0.6.0-x packages.  
Unfortunately, I don't have the Magnifier plugin that you mention in 
Ubuntu.  I was able to see a demo of this on a YouTube video and it 
appears to be exactly what I was describing.

I'm not suggesting a reinvention of the wheel or a duplication of effort 
but I would really love to see this same feature as part of GNOME.  My 
reasons are primarily selfish in that I don't want to have to run 
Compiz-Fusion just to see my Linux desktop and partly non-selfish in 
that I don't see a need to have the same hardware requirements as 
Compiz-Fusion just for the visually impaired to be able to use a Linux 
box (easily).

Richard Powell

JGJones wrote:
> Sound like you've used the basic zoom plugin - which is a bit rubbish 
> to be blunt...as it only zoom into a specific area of desktop but 
> doesn't move.
>
> There are two plugins that's to do with magnification:
>
> Advanced Desktop Zoom - like Desktop Zoom, but does move around with 
> the mouse. However you see a part of the screen and so you'll have to 
> move the mouse around to see more.
>
> Magnifitor (this seem to be new as I had just upgraded to Ubuntu Hardy 
> Heron and this shows up as an option now) - what this does is very 
> similar to what someone mentioned earlier - compared to Windows' 
> magnifior tool - once enabled, it shows a configuable window which 
> moves with cursor around the screen. Inside this window (it have a 
> black border around it) everything is magnified. Hope this description 
> is clear - it's not like Windows in showing a fixed window at top of 
> screen etc.
>
>
> On Tue, 2008-03-11 at 16:21 -0400, Richard Powell wrote:
>> All,
>>
>> I essentially have two problems using Compiz-Fusion.  First, it doesn't 
>> seem to recognize my keyboard/mouse of choice, i.e. it does recognize 
>> some of my other keyboard/mice.  I use a KVM setup so I use a single 
>> keyboard and mouse and have spent a lot of time and money finding the 
>> one that works best for me.  I really don't want to have to change if 
>> possible.  Second, the "Desktop Zoom" feature is "static".  In other 
>> words, it zooms in on a fixed, i.e. static,  area.  In trying to read 
>> text on a screen I need it to dynamically move as I scan the text.  It's 
>> great in what it does but it does not lend itself to reading.
>>
>> Richard Powell
>>
>> JGJones wrote:
>> > Just wondering...
>> >
>> > How is the Compiz's Zoom function for you? - I've mapped it to use the 
>> > <Super> (Win) key and so while I press the Windows key, and then 
>> > scroll the mouse wheel up - it'll zoom into around the cursor smoothly 
>> > as much as you want and the screen moves around with the cursor.
>> >
>> > You can zoom in and out as much as you wish anytime by pressing the 
>> > assigned key and moving mousewheel up and down - this is actually the 
>> > same as to how OSX does their zoom function.
>> >
>> > Obviously your suggestion is ideal for someone that can't use Compiz 
>> > for any reason though.
>> >
>> > BUT the reason I suggest Compiz was that you could make use of extra 
>> > features to help make things easier to see...for example I notice 
>> > there's a Negative plugin (reverse colours on screen) which could help 
>> > make things clear when it's needed etc and finally another plugin 
>> > called ADD Helper - the purpose of this tool is to dim all other 
>> > windows in the background so that the active window you are working on 
>> > is the only one that's "lit up" and all others behind is dimmed. 
>> > Switch to another window and that lights up and the previous will dim.
>> >
>> > Am aware that Compiz is not Gnome...but a lot of function could make 
>> > use of Compiz if supported no?
>> >
>> > Richard Powell wrote:
>> >> All,
>> >>
>> >> I've been using GNOME for almost 10 years now.  In 2003 I became 
>> >> legally blind (visually impaired).  Since that time I have had to use 
>> >> a combination of tricks to allow me to see the screen well enough to 
>> >> use it.  These "tricks" have included low resolution display setting, 
>> >> large monitors, extremely large font sizing and the use of a hand 
>> >> held magnifier.
>> >>
>> >> I've read through some of the discussions on this mailing list and it 
>> >> looks like the team members have some ambitious goals.  I truly hope 
>> >> that these goals can and will be met.  However, as a visually 
>> >> impaired GNOME user I know what would make GNOME much easier to use 
>> >> that I don't believe is nearly as ambitious.  Microsoft introduced a 
>> >> feature with their mice a few years back that has solved my problem 
>> >> entirely on a Windows machine (which ironically is not as easy to 
>> >> setup for the visually impaired as GNOME).  It's called "Magnify".  
>> >> Unlike Logitech's "Zoom" feature, which is little more than a button 
>> >> mapping to the text sizing function of applications such as Mozilla, 
>> >> "Magnify" actually pops up a magnification window around that mouse 
>> >> cursor.  This window can be adjusted for size and magnification level 
>> >> by simple mouse controls.  What this does for me and the other people 
>> >> that I have introduced to this, is it allows me to not have to change 
>> >> all my display and font settings and more importantly I no longer 
>> >> have to hold a magnifier in one hand while trying to use the computer 
>> >> with my other hand.
>> >>
>> >> I'm not sure what the effort level would be for this kind of task.  I 
>> >> do know however that this feature has been the most useful feature to 
>> >> me (as a visually impaired person) since the introduction of the 
>> >> mouse itself.  This may be a simpler solution that would solve the 
>> >> same issues that you are currently wrestling with.  It's application 
>> >> independent and it's extremely flexible to the user.
>> >>
>> >> Richard Powell
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