>From my inspection of the force field files included in gromacs-4.6.1, when you use the charmm ff and the charmm tip3p (tips3p.itp) you get the hydrogen type HT, which does have LJ on the hydrogen atoms, whereas you only get the hydrogen type HWT3 when you use the non-charmm tip3p (tip3p.itp).
If I understand Mark's comment to be that there is no good reason to use the charmm tip3p water model with the charmm ff, then I disagree (See below). I have posted an image ( http://tinypic.com/r/110ak5s/5 ) of the area per lipid (APL) for a POPC bilayer that I built with charmm-gui (83 lipids/leaflet; 43 waters/lipid) and then simulated under the charmm36 lipid parameters for ~ 300 ns many times successively with different water models (2 repeats each, starting from different conformations out of charmm-gui). Note the large difference in the APL for the regular tip3p and the charmm tip3p. In fact, some papers note that you get gel-phase bilayers with the charmm36 lipid ff and the non-charmm tip3p model when using certain cutoff treatments (Piggot and Khalid -- http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/ct3003157 -- is one such paper). Chris. -- original message -- You could do that, but it's extra cost for no known benefit. See http://dx.doi.org/10.1021/ct900549r On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 7:15 PM, Weilong Zhao <wz24 at zips.uakron.edu> wrote: > Hi, > > I noticed that for GROMACS versions of 4.5 of later, the force field for > TIP3P water model in CHARMM27.ff package has a following line included: > > The following atom types are NOT part of the CHARMM distribution > .. > . > HWT3 1 1.008000 0.417 A 0.0 0.0 ; TIP3p H > > It seems that VDW interaction of the default hydrogen of water is switched > off, which makes it not the correct TIP3P ff of CHARMM. However this > hydrogen type HWT3, is used as default by gromacs as CHARMM water model. > > Even though the hydrogen without VDW is the original TIP3P water model, I > wonder is there any problem to include it in CHARMM ff set? Really > appreciate if anyone could share some opinion. -- gmx-users mailing list gmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users * Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! * Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. * Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
