On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 7:47 PM, Janne Hirvi <janne.hi...@uef.fi> wrote:
> Dear gmx-users,
>
> I have run some tests (especially) for pure water, being able to achieve 
> pretty much perfect energy conservation in
> NVE ensemble (with PME-switch and shifted VDW potential).

Great.

> Then, just for the test, I continued to NVT ensemble by using previous .tpr 
> and .cpt files, but the result was a quite
> surprise, because there seems to be constant drift in "Conserved En.".
>
> The drift (100kJ/mol = 0.3%) is not especially large, but it exists with 
> v-rescale temperature coupling. On the other
> hand, there is no drift at all, if I change to nose-hoover temperature 
> coupling.
>
> The behavior is similar also my other systems (liquid mixtures), even though 
> then neither of temperature coupling
> methods will give exactly perfect conservation, but nose-hoover gives much 
> better one (500 kJ/mol = 3% vs. 60
> kJ/mol = 0.4%).
>
> Actually, I was expecting to see no drift at all, after all systems behaved 
> fine in NVE ensemble with same parameters
> with an exception of added temperature coupling (especially when I used 
> double precision for test purpose).
>
> So, the main question is, if it is just normal that even such parameters, 
> which give perfect energy conservation in NVE
> ensemble may introduce drift in "Conserved En.", when NVT ensemble is used? 
> Or is it just purely (only reason for drift)
> indication that some temperature coupling methods"work better" than others in 
> this sense?

In the case of v-rescale, the description of "Conserved En." is an
overbid. If you see the Bussi 2007 paper, there is a conserved
quantity H-tilde, but computing it requires knowledge of the whole of
history. IIRC their H is what mdrun reports as "Conserved En.". I
don't know whether it can be shown that a linear trend in H is
equivalent to conservation in H-tilde, but that would be a useful
result!

Mark
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