> Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2013 11:30:14 -0400
> From: jalem...@vt.edu
> To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
> Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Calculate interaction energy dynamically
> 
> 
> 
> On 7/26/13 5:21 AM, Davit Hakobyan wrote:
> >> From: davhak2...@hotmail.com
> >> To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
> >> Subject: RE: [gmx-users] Calculate interaction energy dynamically
> >> Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 09:13:14 +0000
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 09:35:26 -0400
> >>> From: jalem...@vt.edu
> >>> To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
> >>> Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Calculate interaction energy dynamically
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 7/24/13 9:25 AM, Davit Hakobyan wrote:
> >>>> Thank you again for your time and help.
> >>>>
> >>>> Performing "rerun" on the original system passes without warnings:
> >>>>
> >>>> The
> >>>>    subsequent g_energy also runs smoothly. One gets no warning also if
> >>>> passing the ordered *ordered.tpr and the new index (*ordered.ndx) files
> >>>> to the "mdrun -rerun" of the original system. This indeed leaves with
> >>>> the ordered trajectory file as the only problematic point which might
> >>>> cause the warnings.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Good to know.
> >>>
> >>>> Interestingly, the ordered *.trr file
> >>>> (product of trjorder command) is nearly twice as small as the original
> >>>> *.trr file. Since the coordinates in the ordered *.trr file look fine
> >>>> then probably it is the velocities which might be missing in it. Can the
> >>>
> >>> There's no "might" about it - your gmxcheck output from before shows that
> >>> velocities are definitely absent, which should account for the difference 
> >>> in
> >>> file size.
> >>>
> >>>>    warnings come from this issue ? In this case the g_energy should not 
> >>>> be
> >>>>    able to calculate the kinetic energy. If this is the case may one 
> >>>> still
> >>>>    rely on the numbers obtained by g_energy for the coulomb and vdw terms
> >>>> (despite the warning messages) ?
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> This is a very weird issue.  The .trr file clearly has step and time 
> >>> information
> >>> (from your earlier post), but the resulting .edr file from mdrun -rerun 
> >>> does not
> >>> have the correct step number (though it appears to have time).  Your 
> >>> problem
> >>> does not derive from anything to do with velocities, as far as I can tell.
> >>> Proceed carefully and scrutinize the output to see if it indeed makes 
> >>> sense -
> >>> you can verify energy values from snapshots that have not been ordered by
> >>> creating index files that correspond to the same lipids, for instance.  
> >>> This is
> >>> a very non-standard exercise, so it's probably never been tested and 
> >>> debugged.
> >>
> >> The energy calculation between the nearest neighbors at a given time frame 
> >> based on the original trajectory file (with help of new index file) indeed 
> >> gives the same values as for the ordered trajectory file. So one can 
> >> probably rely on the energy output from the ordered trajectory despite the 
> >> warnings.
> >>
> >> In case of more information about the warnings I will write in this thread.
> >>
> >
> > It seems that the problem appears when for the trjorder command one 
> > indicates *.trr instead of *.xtc as an output.
> > When *.xtc is mentioned like "trjorder ... -o output.xtc" both the "mdrun 
> > -rerun" and g_energy subsequently pass without warnings.
> >
> 
> Interesting.  That leads me to suspect that there is something wrong with the 
> way trjorder writes .trr frames.  It writes .xtc files correctly, but 
> incorrect 
> step information in .trr files.  Thanks for following up.  I'll look into it 
> and 
> probably file a bug report on it.  What Gromacs version are you using?  Maybe 
> you said that before, but I've forgotten.

I use Gromacs 4.5.1.

Thank you very much for your help and time.

> 
> -Justin
> 
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