On 28/07/2012 4:34 AM, Shima Arasteh wrote:

As I explained here before, I get an error ( some interactions seem to be 
assigned multiple times).

And it's been suggested several times that your system may be http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Blowing_Up, and diagnostic and management strategies are described there. Since you haven't said whether it was immediately upon simulation start (so that the topology might be doubtful, and probably only if you are the first to find some new bug) or later on (when the topology is not directly to blame for blowing up). Messing around duplicating atom types to try to avoid the situation is presupposing the form of the solution to a problem that you have not yet identified.

  I suspected the top file, so checked it  and visualized the output of em.mdp; 
the output seems to be correct and I don't see any bonds behaves strangely.

OK, but the "bonds" you see there do not relate to the ones in your topology. http://www.gromacs.org/About_Gromacs/Related_Software/Visualization_Software. So all you've seen is that nothing's gone wrong enough so far.

As I studied in mailing lists it and you also mentioned , this may happen 
because of the insufficient minimization. I'm wondering how a good and 
sufficient minimization  is provided?

Often whatever comes out of a single-precision EM run is fine. You have not presented evidence that your minimization is insufficient, and there are many other possible causes for blowing up. In the absence of a description of your system, your .mdp file and how you've modified your forcefield and/or topology, it's impossible to get effective help.

Mark




Sincerely,
Shima


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On 7/27/12 1:08 PM, Shima Arasteh wrote:

Which parameter is supposed to be changed to get the sufficient minimized 
system? Would anyone guide me  please?

This question is very vague.  In principle, any system can be minimized but the
definition of "sufficient" depends on your goals.

-Justin

Thanks in advance

Cheers,
Shima


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Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 4:37 PM
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On 7/25/12 7:58 AM, Shima Arasteh wrote:

      Some time ago I defined a new residue and after running grompp I got an 
error as there are some interactions assigned multiple times. Then I decided to 
duplicate the atoms involved in that residue to avoid this error.
That error usually indicates your system is crashing and the DD algorithm is 
failing.  That means either the coordinates are insufficiently minimized, the 
topology is incorrect, or the .mdp settings are leading to instability.

Next I renamed the atomtypes in atometypes.atp as below:
      ZC    12.01100 ;    carbonyl C, peptide backbone
ZCT1    12.01100 ;    aliphatic sp3 C for CH
ZCT3    12.01100 ;    aliphatic sp3 C for CH3
ZO    15.99900 ;    carbonyl oxygen
ZHC    1.00800 ;    N-ter H
ZNH1    14.00700 ;    peptide nitrogen
ZH    1.00800 ;    polar H
ZHB    1.00800 ;    backbone H
ZHA    1.00800 ;    nonpolar H

Then I wanted to modify the .itp file, got in to the trouble; I couldn't find 
the C atomtype in nonbonded.itp file. Actually I don't know what to do now!

Start over with a fresh set of force field files that you haven't experimented 
with and troubleshoot the stability of your system.  If you Google or search 
the mailing list archive for this error, tons of useful results show up.

-Justin

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