On 22/03/2012 5:13 AM, francesco oteri wrote:
Hi Mark,
these are the involved residues extracted by the .top (CSA and CSB are cysteines with modified partial charges):

; residue  62 CSB rtp CSB  q -0.5
1010 NH1 62 CSB N 1010 -0.47 14.007 ; qtot 0.53 1011 H 62 CSB HN 1011 0.31 1.008 ; qtot 0.84 1012 CT1 62 CSB CA 1012 0.07 12.011 ; qtot 0.91 1013 HB 62 CSB HA 1013 0.09 1.008 ; qtot 1 1014 CT2 62 CSB CB 1014 -0.05 12.011 ; qtot 0.95 1015 HA 62 CSB HB1 1015 0.051 1.008 ; qtot 1.001 1016 HA 62 CSB HB2 1016 0.051 1.008 ; qtot 1.052 1017 S 62 CSB SG 1017 -0.57 32.06 ; qtot 0.482 1018 C 62 CSB C 1018 0.51 12.011 ; qtot 0.992 1019 O 62 CSB O 1019 -0.51 15.999 ; qtot 0.482
; residue  65 CSA rtp CSA  q -0.3
1043 NH1 65 CSA N 1043 -0.47 14.007 ; qtot 0.012 1044 H 65 CSA HN 1044 0.31 1.008 ; qtot 0.322 1045 CT1 65 CSA CA 1045 0.07 12.011 ; qtot 0.392 1046 HB 65 CSA HA 1046 0.09 1.008 ; qtot 0.482 1047 CT2 65 CSA CB 1047 -0.03 12.011 ; qtot 0.452 1048 HA 65 CSA HB1 1048 0.08 1.008 ; qtot 0.532 1049 HA 65 CSA HB2 1049 0.08 1.008 ; qtot 0.612 1050 S 65 CSA SG 1050 -0.39 32.06 ; qtot 0.222 1051 C 65 CSA C 1051 0.51 12.011 ; qtot 0.732 1052 O 65 CSA O 1052 -0.51 15.999 ; qtot 0.222
; residue 112 ASN rtp ASN  q  0.0
1006 NH1 112 ASN N 1006 -0.47 14.007 ; qtot -4.732 1007 H 112 ASN HN 1007 0.31 1.008 ; qtot -4.422 1008 CT1 112 ASN CA 1008 0.07 12.011 ; qtot -4.352 1009 HB 112 ASN HA 1009 0.09 1.008 ; qtot -4.262 1010 CT2 112 ASN CB 1010 -0.18 12.011 ; qtot -4.442 1011 HA 112 ASN HB1 1011 0.09 1.008 ; qtot -4.352 1012 HA 112 ASN HB2 1012 0.09 1.008 ; qtot -4.262 1013 CC 112 ASN CG 1013 0.55 12.011 ; qtot -3.712 1014 O 112 ASN OD1 1014 -0.55 15.999 ; qtot -4.262 1015 NH2 112 ASN ND2 1015 -0.62 14.007 ; qtot -4.882 1016 H 112 ASN HD21 1016 0.32 1.008 ; qtot -4.562 1017 H 112 ASN HD22 1017 0.3 1.008 ; qtot -4.262 1018 C 112 ASN C 1018 0.51 12.011 ; qtot -3.752 1019 O 112 ASN O 1019 -0.51 15.999 ; qtot -4.262
; residue 114 ILE rtp ILE  q  0.0
1041 NH1 114 ILE N 1041 -0.47 14.007 ; qtot -4.732 1042 H 114 ILE HN 1042 0.31 1.008 ; qtot -4.422 1043 CT1 114 ILE CA 1043 0.07 12.011 ; qtot -4.352 1044 HB 114 ILE HA 1044 0.09 1.008 ; qtot -4.262 1045 CT1 114 ILE CB 1045 -0.09 12.011 ; qtot -4.352 1046 HA 114 ILE HB 1046 0.09 1.008 ; qtot -4.262 1047 CT3 114 ILE CG2 1047 -0.27 12.011 ; qtot -4.532 1048 HA 114 ILE HG21 1048 0.09 1.008 ; qtot -4.442 1049 HA 114 ILE HG22 1049 0.09 1.008 ; qtot -4.352 1050 HA 114 ILE HG23 1050 0.09 1.008 ; qtot -4.262 1051 CT2 114 ILE CG1 1051 -0.18 12.011 ; qtot -4.442 1052 HA 114 ILE HG11 1052 0.09 1.008 ; qtot -4.352 1053 HA 114 ILE HG12 1053 0.09 1.008 ; qtot -4.262 1054 CT3 114 ILE CD 1054 -0.27 12.011 ; qtot -4.532 1055 HA 114 ILE HD1 1055 0.09 1.008 ; qtot -4.442 1056 HA 114 ILE HD2 1056 0.09 1.008 ; qtot -4.352 1057 HA 114 ILE HD3 1057 0.09 1.008 ; qtot -4.262 1058 C 114 ILE C 1058 0.51 12.011 ; qtot -3.752 1059 O 114 ILE O 1059 -0.51 15.999 ; qtot -4.262
; residue 607 CSB rtp CSB  q -0.5
9693 NH1 607 CSB N 9693 -0.47 14.007 ; qtot -3.248 9694 H 607 CSB HN 9694 0.31 1.008 ; qtot -2.938 9695 CT1 607 CSB CA 9695 0.07 12.011 ; qtot -2.868 9696 HB 607 CSB HA 9696 0.09 1.008 ; qtot -2.778 9697 CT2 607 CSB CB 9697 -0.05 12.011 ; qtot -2.828 9698 HA 607 CSB HB1 9698 0.051 1.008 ; qtot -2.777 9699 HA 607 CSB HB2 9699 0.051 1.008 ; qtot -2.726 9700 S 607 CSB SG 9700 -0.57 32.06 ; qtot -3.296 9701 C 607 CSB C 9701 0.51 12.011 ; qtot -2.786 9702 O 607 CSB O 9702 -0.51 15.999 ; qtot -3.296
; residue 610 CSA rtp CSA  q -0.3
9732 NH1 610 CSA N 9732 -0.47 14.007 ; qtot -3.766 9733 H 610 CSA HN 9733 0.31 1.008 ; qtot -3.456 9734 CT1 610 CSA CA 9734 0.07 12.011 ; qtot -3.386 9735 HB 610 CSA HA 9735 0.09 1.008 ; qtot -3.296 9736 CT2 610 CSA CB 9736 -0.03 12.011 ; qtot -3.326 9737 HA 610 CSA HB1 9737 0.08 1.008 ; qtot -3.246 9738 HA 610 CSA HB2 9738 0.08 1.008 ; qtot -3.166 9739 S 610 CSA SG 9739 -0.39 32.06 ; qtot -3.556 9740 C 610 CSA C 9740 0.51 12.011 ; qtot -3.046 9741 O 610 CSA O 9741 -0.51 15.999 ; qtot -3.556
; residue 615 NI  rtp NI   q +0.4
9786 NI 615 NI NI 9786 0.4 58.6934 ; qtot -3.926
; residue 616 CN  rtp CN   q -0.5
9787 C 616 CN C1 9787 0.11 12.011 ; qtot -3.816 9788 N 616 CN N1 9788 -0.61 14.007 ; qtot -4.426
; residue 617 CN  rtp CN   q -0.5
9789 C 617 CN C1 9789 0.11 12.011 ; qtot -4.316 9790 N 617 CN N1 9790 -0.61 14.007 ; qtot -4.926
; residue 618 CO  rtp CO   q -0.1
9791 C 618 CO C1 9791 0.22 12.011 ; qtot -4.706 9792 O 618 CO O1 9792 -0.294 15.999 ; qtot -5


While this are the bonds I am referring:

 1017  9786     1
 1050  9786     1
 9700  9786     1
 9739  9786     1
 1012  9786     1 *
 1015  9786     1 *
 1016  9786     1 *
 1045  9786     1 *
 1048  9786     1 *
 1049  9786     1 *
 9695  9786     1 *
 9698  9786     1 *
 9699  9786     1 *
 9734  9786     1 *
 9737  9786     1 *
 9738  9786     1 *
 9786  9787     1
 9786  9789     1
 9786  9791     1

The bonds with the * are what I call fake. i.e the couple 1012 9786 involves a bond between the nickel atom and an hydrogen. This couple, as well as the other fake couples, disappears in the .tpr file an interestingly pdb2gmx doesn't signal them.

Your atom numbering is non-unique, so this may be confusing something. Try pdb2gmx -renumber, and/or feeding the renumbered .gro file into a second run of pdb2gmx. Also, providing your specbond.dat would help when seeking answers about how it works...

Mark



If the phenomena is not yet known, I can give you the data I used to generate the .top and .tpr.

Francesco

Il giorno 21 marzo 2012 16:18, Mark Abraham <mark.abra...@anu.edu.au <mailto:mark.abra...@anu.edu.au>> ha scritto:

    On 22/03/2012 1:46 AM, francesco oteri wrote:
    Dear gromacs user,
    I noted a strange behavior in topology generation workflow.

    I have a protein whose active site contains a Ni atom linked to 4
    Cys.
    I inserted the 4 bonds by specbonds.dat.   When I run pdb2gmx, I
    have inspected
    the Linking messages and they fit with the expected topology, I
    mean pdb2gmx
    correctly detects the four bonds nickel-sulphur.
    So I run grompp and the topol.tpr has been correctly generated.

    Then I compared topol.top and topol.tpr bonds and I noticed that
    in topol.top there a lot
    of fake-bonds, i.e Ni-hydrogen, Ni-Carbonium.

    Can you show an example of what you interpret as a fake bond?

    Mark



    I dumped topol.tpr through gmxdump, and I noticed that these
    bonds are no more present
    and only  "right" bonds are present.

    So, I am wondering why the fake bonds are inserted in topol.top
    and how grompp detectes
    these bonds.


    Francesco




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