Hello Justin,

I am running 2,000,000 time steps for the actual MD run (4,000 ps).
Depending on how many solvent molecules I start with, I get slightly
different results.  Do you think its ok to run several different tests
and take the average?  Or perhaps take the end results of a shorter MD
run and use those as the starting coordinates for a new run?

Thanks,
Fabian


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Fabian Casteblanco wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I'm running the same process from the free energy tutorial by Justin
> Lemkul...http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin/gmx-tutorials/free_energy/index.html.
>
> How did the number of solvent particles get chosen (in the tutorial, 210
> molecules were chosen)?   I seem to be getting slightly different

If memory serves, I reproduced what was in the original paper, but do check.

> results (ranging from as small as 200 J/mol to about 5 kJ/mol depending
> on how many molecules I choose (ranging for example from 210 ethanol
> molecules to about 610 ethanol molecules for the largest energy
> difference change of about 5 kJ).   I keep running tests to see if there
> is some sort of minimum atom number to get steady consistent numbers but
> I can't seem to find it.  When I plot for example the bar.xvg &
> barint.xvg for both sets to see where the lines don't match up, its
> usually one or two points that differ slightly which cause the free
> energies in the end to be slightly different.    I seem to be noticing
> too that the more atoms I use, the free energy gets a little bit lower.
>
> Does anybody have any experience with this?
>

How long are your simulations?  I have experienced the case (using a
water-octanol solvent mixture) where the initial configuration made a big
difference in the result, so longer simulations and multiple configurations for
the solvent were necessary to get reliable averages.

-Justin

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Ph.D. Candidate
ICTAS Doctoral Scholar
MILES-IGERT Trainee
Department of Biochemistry
Virginia Tech
Blacksburg, VA
jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080
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On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Fabian Casteblanco
<fabian.castebla...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> I'm running the same process from the free energy tutorial by Justin 
> Lemkul...http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin/gmx-tutorials/free_energy/index.html.
>
> How did the number of solvent particles get chosen (in the tutorial, 210 
> molecules were chosen)?   I seem to be getting slightly different results 
> (ranging from as small as 200 J/mol to about 5 kJ/mol depending on how many 
> molecules I choose (ranging for example from 210 ethanol molecules to about 
> 610 ethanol molecules for the largest energy difference change of about 5 
> kJ).   I keep running tests to see if there is some sort of minimum atom 
> number to get steady consistent numbers but I can't seem to find it.  When I 
> plot for example the bar.xvg & barint.xvg for both sets to see where the 
> lines don't match up, its usually one or two points that differ slightly 
> which cause the free energies in the end to be slightly different.    I seem 
> to be noticing too that the more atoms I use, the free energy gets a little 
> bit lower.
>
> Does anybody have any experience with this?
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> Best regards,
>
> Fabian F. Casteblanco
> Rutgers University --
> C: +908 917 0723
> E:  fabian.castebla...@gmail.com
>



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Best regards,

Fabian F. Casteblanco
Rutgers University --
Chemical Engineering PhD Student
C: +908 917 0723
E:  fabian.castebla...@gmail.com
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