Jose Tusell wrote:
When I run gromacs with bOpt yes I run into the a problem with the
coordinates of my qm system: the initial coordinates are the
following:

NAME = ybu_em_qmmm.inp
|  1> #input-file generated by gromacs
|  2> !QMMMOpt TightSCF
|  3> !PAL8 Quick-DFT VerySlowConv TightSCF KDIIS VDW EnGrad NoUseSym
|  4> %scf
|  5>   Maxiter 5000
|  6> end
|  7> %pal nprocs 8
|  8> end
|  9>
| 10>
| 11>
| 12> %LJCOEFFICIENTS "ybu_em_qmmm.LJ"
| 13> *xyz -2 1
| 14>   7 46.4499998  40.2500010  48.1099987
| 15>   6 45.2400017  40.2899981  47.5600004
| 16>   7 44.7599983  40.6899977  46.3600016
| 17>   6 43.4700012  40.5999994  46.0599995
| 18>   7 42.6300001  40.1100016  46.9500017
| 19>   6 43.0100012  39.6799994  48.1699991
| 20>   7 42.1299982  39.1499996  49.0199995
| 21>   1 42.4300003  38.8100004  49.9200010
| 22>   1 41.1600018  39.0899992  48.7699986
| 23>   6 44.3400002  39.7700000  48.4999990
| 24>   7 45.0799990  39.4600010  49.5800018
| 25>   6 46.3500023  39.7600007  49.3499994
| 26>   6 47.7699995  40.5399990  47.4900007
| 27>   8 48.8000011  41.0900021  48.3400011
| 28>   6 49.8199987  41.7100000  47.4800014
| 29>   6 47.7400017  41.5500021  46.3600016
| 30>   8 46.9999981  41.4499998  45.1499987
| 31>   1 47.2300005  40.5999994  44.6799994
| 32>   6 49.1900015  41.9199991  46.1000013
| 33>   8 49.7800016  40.8699989  45.3399992
| 34>   1 50.7399988  41.0900021  45.1599979
| 35>   6 50.0799990  43.2399988  47.5799990
| 36>   8 51.4400005  43.5300016  47.9400015
| 37>  15 51.8400002  43.3099985  49.4799995
| 38>   8 52.1000004  44.8099995  49.9800014
| 39>   8 50.5700016  42.5000000  50.0600004
| 40>   8 53.1099987  42.3299980  49.3599987
| 41>  15 54.4700003  43.1799984  49.4500017
| 42>   8 55.5600023  42.1400023  48.8899994
| 43>   8 54.1200018  44.4799995  48.5599995
| 44>   8 54.5300007  43.5900021  50.9999990
| 45>  15 55.8799982  43.3500004  51.8499994
| 46>   8 57.0900011  43.9900017  50.9899998
| 47>   8 55.8300018  43.9099979  53.2200003
| 48>   8 56.1399984  41.7600012  51.8499994
| 49>   1 43.1099987  40.9200001  45.1000023
| 50>   1 47.1600008  39.6399999  50.0400019
| 51>   1 48.1400013  39.6199989  47.0900011
| 52>   1 47.3199987  42.4200010  46.8200016
| 53>   1 49.3300009  42.8999996  45.7000017
| 54>   1 50.7200003  41.1499977  47.4200010
| 55>   1 49.8600006  43.6999989  46.6300011
| 56>   1 49.4299984  43.6600018  48.3199978
| 57>  12 51.3999987  43.3799982  51.9299984
| 58> *
| 59> %pointcharges "ybu_em_qmmm.pc"
| 60>
| 61>
| 62>                          ****END OF INPUT****

This first calculation doesn't run into problems however after this
the new coordinates are wrong by a factor of 10.

This is the next input file generated by gromacs:

NAME = ybu_em_qmmm.inp
|  1> #input-file generated by gromacs
|  2> !QMMMOpt TightSCF
|  3> !PAL8 Quick-DFT VerySlowConv TightSCF KDIIS VDW EnGrad NoUseSym
|  4> %scf
|  5>   Maxiter 5000
|  6> end
|  7> %pal nprocs 8
|  8> end
|  9>
| 10>
| 11>
| 12> %LJCOEFFICIENTS "ybu_em_qmmm.LJ"
| 13> *xyz -2 1
| 14>   7  4.6643215   4.0067959   4.8652828
| 15>   6  4.4694147   4.0687612   4.6910113
| 16>   7  4.4788954   4.0736303   4.5814043
| 17>   6  4.2882785   4.0960234   4.5192298
| 18>   7  4.1568694   3.9851558   4.6636197
| 19>   6  4.2702511   3.9942223   4.8413402
| 20>   7  4.1388491   3.8647231   4.9325246
| 21>   1  4.2422304   3.8729668   5.0225985
| 22>   1  4.0874949   3.9029175   4.8758829
| 23>   6  4.4479644   3.9264068   4.8907641
| 24>   7  4.4724247   3.8935867   5.0617158
| 25>   6  4.6581322   3.9623603   4.9860328
| 26>   6  4.7224784   3.9516553   4.7729388
| 27>   8  4.9013394   4.1037330   4.9433815
| 28>   6  5.0506485   4.1505158   4.7845429
| 29>   6  4.7479546   4.2596489   4.5867884
| 30>   8  4.6396983   4.1753584   4.3912268
| 31>   1  4.7245148   4.0333679   4.4395000
| 32>   6  4.9467531   4.1628179   4.5303190
| 33>   8  5.0127959   4.0332937   4.4357231
| 34>   1  5.0972128   4.1086709   4.5025694
| 35>   6  4.9707726   4.4155064   4.7358957
| 36>   8  5.1747119   4.3822494   4.7240046
| 37>  15  5.1759595   4.3526104   4.9696961
| 38>   8  5.2000558   4.5951414   5.0385225
| 39>   8  4.9872991   4.2056358   5.0856835
| 40>   8  5.3196424   4.1316289   4.9306369
| 41>  15  5.4781163   4.3365851   4.9144840
| 42>   8  5.6436682   4.1501650   4.8309124
| 43>   8  5.4556131   4.5460758   4.7758737
| 44>   8  5.4388809   4.3959689   5.1872373
| 45>  15  5.6339312   4.3419433   5.2184927
| 46>   8  5.8053279   4.4479111   5.0789297
| 47>   8  5.5981785   4.4297397   5.4245871
| 48>   8  5.6559128   4.0851763   5.2241915
| 49>   1  4.2944524   4.1013804   4.4863331
| 50>   1  4.7380015   3.9515409   5.0357658
| 51>   1  4.8261809   3.9258796   4.7002071
| 52>   1  4.7115117   4.2592505   4.6899751
| 53>   1  4.9388400   4.3221569   4.5484522
| 54>   1  5.1027077   4.0887082   4.7342393
| 55>   1  4.9870053   4.3987840   4.6446544
| 56>   1  4.9254298   4.3886098   4.8489299
| 57>  12  5.1316565   4.3423077   5.2266484
| 58> *
| 59> %pointcharges "ybu_em_qmmm.pc"
| 60>
| 61>
| 62>                          ****END OF INPUT****

Any ideas why this is happening?


A factor of 10 would seem to me to be an Angstrom -> nm conversion.

-Justin

Thanks,

Jose Tusell

On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Jose Tusell <jrta1...@gmail.com> wrote:
That solved it.  In the ORCA manual for version 2.8 it says to use
bOpt = true instead of bOpt = yes.  And there is no mention of the mdp
option in the gromacs manual or gromacs online mdp options.

Ramon

On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Jose Tusell <jrta1...@gmail.com> wrote:
I've tried the bOpt = true.  Is the flag bOpt = yes?  I'll try that
and I'll let you know.

Ramon

On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Christoph Riplinger
<c...@thch.uni-bonn.de> wrote:
Dear Justin,

The LJ and LJ.Excl files should be generated when you set bOpt = yes. What
does the .inp file say. Is there !QMMMOpt or only !EnGrad?
Christoph

On 11/18/2011 06:20 PM, Jose Tusell wrote:
Hi Justin,

I tried using a larger step size but my system blew up...  My guess is
that I have a bad starting structure, I'll work on the initial
structure for the QM region (energy minimize).

When I'm running ORCA I want to have a LJ file to correct for the
interaction of my QM system with the protein.  However this file is
not created when I run QMMM, I've used the bOpt = true in the mdp
file.  Can anyone please offer some help on how to create this LJ
files?

Thanks,

Jose Tusell

On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 2:07 PM, swati patel<swatipatel...@gmail.com>
 wrote:
hello,
I am trying to simulate streptavidin tetramer-biotin complex.I ve
calculated
Ligand topology from a sofware PRODRG using gromos87 force fields.After
solvating it,I am getting an error using grompp command

Fatal error:
Atomtype HW not found

can anyone provide me some help?

Thanx with anticipation.


On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 2:29 AM, Jose Tusell<jrta1...@gmail.com>  wrote:
I'll try changing the step size first and if that fails I'll try
another algorithm.  Thanks for the input.

Jose Tusell

On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Justin A. Lemkul<jalem...@vt.edu>
wrote:
Jose Tusell wrote:
Hi Justin,

Thanks for the input on why this is happening.   It sounds a little
suspicious that the energy doesn't change after a few steps of energy
minimization.  Do you know of any way that I can find out what is
going on?

The screen output should indicate the atom with maximal force.
 Sometimes
the EM algorithms get stuck when the geometry cannot change without
making
detrimental moves.  You either need a larger step size, a different
algorithm, or a better starting structure, if that is the case.  I have
seen
this many times before, nothing suspicious about it.

-Justin

Thanks,

Jose Tusell

On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Justin A. Lemkul<jalem...@vt.edu>
wrote:
Jose Tusell wrote:
Hi Cristoph,

Thanks for the reply.  I found that my problem was not gromacs.  The
input that ORCA was receiving from GROMACS did not have the correct
number of hydrogens.  I've solved this problem now and ORCA is
running
fine.  I however ran into another problem with my energy
minimization.
 The output from my gromacs log file is the following:

         Step           Time         Lambda
            0        0.00000        0.00000

 Energies (kJ/mol)
         Bond          Angle    Proper Dih.  Improper Dih.
 LJ-14
  1.21899e+04    1.92496e+03    5.62567e+03    1.49141e+01
 3.68001e+03
   Coulomb-14        LJ (SR)   Coulomb (SR)   Coul. recip.
 Quantum
En.
  2.41200e+04    1.47494e+05   -5.06544e+05   -7.56009e+04
-3.96508e+06
    Potential Pressure (bar)
 -4.35218e+06   -2.10629e+04

         Step           Time         Lambda
            1        1.00000        0.00000

 Energies (kJ/mol)
         Bond          Angle    Proper Dih.  Improper Dih.
 LJ-14
  1.20006e+04    1.92297e+03    5.62600e+03    1.47801e+01
 3.67746e+03
   Coulomb-14        LJ (SR)   Coulomb (SR)   Coul. recip.
 Quantum
En.
  2.41174e+04    1.46421e+05   -5.06609e+05   -7.56156e+04
-4.00402e+06
    Potential Pressure (bar)
 -4.39246e+06   -2.10739e+04

         Step           Time         Lambda
            2        2.00000        0.00000

 Energies (kJ/mol)
         Bond          Angle    Proper Dih.  Improper Dih.
 LJ-14
  1.17961e+04    1.92126e+03    5.62633e+03    1.46477e+01
 3.67461e+03
   Coulomb-14        LJ (SR)   Coulomb (SR)   Coul. recip.
 Quantum
En.
  2.41145e+04    1.45528e+05   -5.06679e+05   -7.56315e+04
-4.18671e+06
    Potential Pressure (bar)
 -4.57635e+06   -2.10854e+04

         Step           Time         Lambda
            3        3.00000        0.00000

         Step           Time         Lambda
            4        4.00000        0.00000

 Energies (kJ/mol)
         Bond          Angle    Proper Dih.  Improper Dih.
 LJ-14
  1.16705e+04    1.92041e+03    5.62652e+03    1.45728e+01
 3.67282e+03
   Coulomb-14        LJ (SR)   Coulomb (SR)   Coul. recip.
 Quantum
En.
  2.41128e+04    1.45113e+05   -5.06721e+05   -7.56410e+04
-4.24486e+06
    Potential Pressure (bar)
 -4.63509e+06   -2.10913e+04

         Step           Time         Lambda
            5        5.00000        0.00000

         Step           Time         Lambda
            6        6.00000        0.00000

         Step           Time         Lambda
            7        7.00000        0.00000

         Step           Time         Lambda
            8        8.00000        0.00000

         Step           Time         Lambda
            9        9.00000        0.00000

         Step           Time         Lambda
           10       10.00000        0.00000

         Step           Time         Lambda
           11       11.00000        0.00000

         Step           Time         Lambda
           12       12.00000        0.00000

         Step           Time         Lambda
           13       13.00000        0.00000

         Step           Time         Lambda
           14       14.00000        0.00000

         Step           Time         Lambda
           15       15.00000        0.00000

         Step           Time         Lambda
           16       16.00000        0.00000

         Step           Time         Lambda
           17       17.00000        0.00000

         Step           Time         Lambda
           18       18.00000        0.00000


Stepsize too small, or no change in energy.
Converged to machine precision,
but not to the requested precision Fmax<  1000

Double precision normally gives you higher accuracy.
You might need to increase your constraint accuracy, or turn
off constraints alltogether (set constraints = none in mdp file)

Why doesn't GROMACS output the energies for certain steps?  Step 3
and
steps 5-18 do show any output in the log file.  Any ideas why this
is
happening?

This happens for the reasons printed by mdrun - those steps caused no
change
in energy.

-Justin

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