XUEMING TANG wrote:
Thank you for your reply, Lina. I did try the prodrg server before. For A molecule, there is no improper dihedral. A just has one dihedral for the head group. For B molecule, it gives improper dihedral of the tetra nitrogen. I am wondering what is the criteria or at least a guidance of what could be the best choice for the topology file. Or any choices could be right and I have to try which one provide consistent results with experiment by trial?

I see no reason why a quaternary nitrogen would need an improper dihedral assigned to it. Some impropers in Gromos96 are applied to tetrahedral groups like alpha-carbons because there is no explicit H atom present, thus the stereochemistry is maintained with an improper so that the groups do not invert. With four explicit substituents, an improper should not be necessary.

-Justin

Best!
Xueming

On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 9:57 AM, lina <lina.lastn...@gmail.com <mailto:lina.lastn...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 10:26 AM, XUEMING TANG <yujan2...@gmail.com
    <mailto:yujan2...@gmail.com>> wrote:
     > Hi there
     >
     > I am trying to build up a topology file for a tetra nitrogen
    molecule using
     > Gromos UA and OPLS UA force field. Following are the molecules.
     >
     > 1. for                      C
     >                               |
     >  A.  C-C-C-C-C-C-C-N-C         and
     >                               |
     >                              C
     >
     >                               C
     >                                |
     >  B.   C-C-C-C-C-C-C-N-C-C-C-C-COOH
     >                                |
     >                               C
     >
     > I have several questions:
     >
     > For A, the first molecule, should I use improper dihedral for the
    N-(CH3)3
     > or proper dihedral for C-C-N-C with multi 3 for the head group?
    Is there any
     > differences when using different force field (GROMOS and OPLS-UA)?
     > For B, the second molecule, should I use improper dihedral for
    the N-(CH3)3
     > or proer dihedral for C-C-N-C with multi 2? Is there any
    differences when
     > using different force field (GROMOS UA and OPLS UA)?
     >
     > The first expression about improper didedral is a planer
    restriction. When
     > read the manual it also refers to the tetrahedral structure like
    this tetra
     > nitrogen functional group. My question is when it has
     > really long hydrocarbon tail, I guess it will be hard to flip over to
     > the mirror images. Or it is not true in the simulation?

    You may take one built by other server, such as
    http://davapc1.bioch.dundee.ac.uk/prodrg/

    as reference, and built yourself if necessary.
     >
     > Thank you very much!!!
     >
     > Best!
     > Xueming
     >
     >
     >
     >
     >
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