On 10/11/2011 7:36 PM, James Starlight wrote:
Thanks Mark,

1) By the way do you know any database where I could obtain information about function of the specific CAP groups ? E.g as I know the most spread CAP on N is ACE group but in my case there is For ( simple COH group) instead of ACE.

I think that parametrisation of such simple groups should not be very complicate but it's strange that I've not found already built topology for them.

People use acetyl rather than formyl cap either because that's what was used in the experimental system, or because they are simulating a fragment from a larger peptide and acetyl makes for a better model of a peptide bond than formyl for only a small extra cost. I don't even know that any force fields have parameters for H-C(O)-N(H)-R. I suggest you use acetyl.



2) Also I've tried to made topology for D amoniacids. I've started with the topology of L analogs e.g for D-val I've created enty based on the Val in .rtp and .hdb files. Not I think I should to invert impropers for the Calpha atoms that new topology represent to true D-isomer :) But I'm not sure about how to make it correctly :)

In .itp I've found for new DVA residue

 [ impropers ]
;  ai    aj    ak    al   gromos type
    N    -C    CA     H     gi_1
   CA     N     C    CB     gi_2
   CA   CG1   CG2    CB     gi_2
    C    CA    +N     O     gi_1

here there are 2 enties for the Ca atoms. What should I do with it for invertion?

First, identify that there's anything to invert. Look at the #define lines for gi_1 and gi_2 and the manual sections for impropers. There's nothing associated with any handedness. The impropers for chirality prevent inversion, rather than enforcing a particular chirality. You can test this yourself. Make a .tpr of an L-amino acid and .gro files of each chirality, and then use mdrun -rerun Lconfiguration.gro -s Lconfiguration and compare with mdrun -rerun Rconfiguration.gro -s Lconfiguration.

Mark


James


2011/11/10 Mark Abraham <mark.abra...@anu.edu.au <mailto:mark.abra...@anu.edu.au>>

    On 10/11/2011 7:05 PM, James Starlight wrote:
    Justin,


    I've also look for the cap editing in the pymol but it seems that
    that function lacks in that program

    By the way, what are specificity of such Cap groups ? Do they are
    only sheld charges on the termi or have something addition function?

    They can. The purpose of a simulation is to provide a model of
    reality. How one would wish to cap a peptide depends what is being
    modelled under what conditions with what objectives in mind.



    What difference beetwen different caps I cant understand why in
    my structure there are so non-standart groups.

    Shrug. We don't even know what they are... Wherever you sourced
    your starting structure should discuss how and why the termini
    have such caps.

    Mark




    James

    2011/11/9 Justin A. Lemkul <jalem...@vt.edu <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu>>



        James Starlight wrote:

            Justin,

            Could you tell me another alternative ways to replace
            existing cap groups in my pdb besides xleap ? ( I've had
             many problems with the pdb's processed by this soft).
            Also I've tried to make topology for the non-standart
            caps by PRODRG but I also have some problems with such
            parametrisation.


        Unless you describe your problems, there's very little anyone
        can or will try to do to help you.  I've never had a problem
        with an xleap coordinate file, so I can't offer you any
        additional guidance with that.  Otherwise, there are dozens
        of programs that are capable of drawing molecules or editing
        files.  See, for instance:

        
http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/File_Formats/Coordinate_File#Sources

        -Justin


            Also I've not found suitable topology for some D-isomers
            ( it's strange that parametriation for such typical
            non-standart residues is absent in all force fields ). As
            I understood I cant use topology of L-analogs for the
            parametrisation of such D-forms because I dont know
            suitable parameters for dihedrals for instance.
            Have someone pre-built parameters for the D-aa for Gromos
            or Charmm force field?


            Thanks,

            James

            2011/10/29 Justin A. Lemkul <jalem...@vt.edu
            <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu> <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu
            <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu>>>




               James Starlight wrote:

                   Justin, hello!

                   Could you tell me what exactly program from the
            Amber tools
                   package you've used for the KALP peptide
            preparation e.g for
                   capping ?


               xleap

               At this point, please start a new thread for your
            questions, as
               these topics are completely unrelated to where you
            started.

               -Justin


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