Steven Neumann wrote:


On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Justin A. Lemkul <jalem...@vt.edu <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu>> wrote:



    Steven Neumann wrote:



        On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 2:50 PM, Mark Abraham
        <mark.abra...@anu.edu.au <mailto:mark.abra...@anu.edu.au>
        <mailto:mark.abra...@anu.edu.__au
        <mailto:mark.abra...@anu.edu.au>>> wrote:

           On 6/09/2011 11:37 PM, Steven Neumann wrote:

               Dear Gromacs Users,
               I am calculating hbonds between my 10 ligands and each
               residue... How does Gromacs calculate average number of
        hbonds
               per timeframe?
               Example:
               for Glycine:
               Av. num of hbonds/timeframe
               0.96
               To check whether that is correct I added all hbonds
        formed with
               Glycine during my simulation time over 2000 (each 50ps)
               timeframes and I obtained value: 2900. If you divide it
        by 2000
               you will never get 0.96 obviously. How does Gromacs
        calculate it?


           Presumably by adding up the number in each time frame and
        dividing
           by the number. Unless you have a highly-exposed glycine, forming
           more than one H-bond seems unlikely, and your 2900 number
        suggests
           it's happening lots of times. I expect you're comparing a sum of
           oranges with a sum of apples, but without more information about
           what you're doing in your attempt to check, we can't help much.
           Please be sure to read g_hbond -h, and the legends of any
        .xvg files
           you're looking at.

           Mark
           Thank you Justin and Mark,

         Yes, just found the mistake... I added pairs within 3.5 A
        instead of hbonds so the Gromacs calculation is correct. So the
        value is 0.96 for Glycine. So in this case it is a strong
        interaction. Are there any criteria to assess strenght of
        interactions or binding affinity for residues? Was it described
        anywhere for each residue to specify these values with respect
        to possible hbonds for each residue (e.g. Glycine - 3)?

    Binding affinity can be determined from free energy calculations,
    but for the case of multiple ligands this would be an incredibly
    complex calculation (or series of calculations, really).  You might
    be able to make some argument about occupancy of available hydrogen
    bonding sites.

    -Justin

So will it be possible to exteract one ligand which from my visualisation occupy one residue with highest number of av. hbonds (others aggregate on bounded or bind weaker) and then calculate free energy?

Something like that might be possible, by calculating free energies over an MD rerun, but I've never tried it so I won't speculate. Consult the literature for precedent and procedure and have a look at the free energy tutorial on the Gromacs site to see if you can piece it all together. It won't be a trivial exercise.

-Justin

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