On 6/09/2011 1:44 AM, J. Nathan Scott wrote:


On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Mark Abraham <mark.abra...@anu.edu.au <mailto:mark.abra...@anu.edu.au>> wrote:

    On 6/09/2011 1:22 AM, J. Nathan Scott wrote:


    On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Mark Abraham
    <mark.abra...@anu.edu.au <mailto:mark.abra...@anu.edu.au>> wrote:

        On 5/09/2011 3:30 AM, J. Nathan Scott wrote:

            Hello fellow GROMACS users,

            I am in the process of constructing a new residue in the
            OPLS-AA force field for the mCherry chromophore. However,
            I am having some difficulty in adding three CH3
            hydrogens. In the 2H5Q PDB structure the chromophore
            residue, CH6, has CE1 and CE2 ring carbons defined, but
            also an extended chain carbon named CE. The problem is
            that my hdb rules were assigning HE1 and HE2 to the ring
carbon hydrogens (1 1 HE1 CE1 CD1 CZ for example), and HE1, HE2, and HE3 to the CE carbon
            hydrogens (3       4       HE     CE     SD      CG1).
            Since these hydrogens are of different types, I need to
            have them named distinctly in my RTP file and need for
            Gromacs to understand them as different types. I changed
            the CH6 residue's CE atom to CE3 in the PDB file and the
            relevant RTP entries accordingly (see below). I also
            changed the hdb entry for the new CE3 atom (also below).

            Relevant RTP lines:
              CE3    opls_209      0.0     10
             HE31    opls_140      0.0     11
             HE32    opls_140      0.0     12
             HE33    opls_140      0.0     13
              CE1    opls_145      0.0     32
              HE1    opls_146      0.0     33
              CE2    opls_145      0.0     34
              HE2    opls_146      0.0     35
             [bonds]
              CE3  HE31
              CE3  HE32
              CE3  HE33
              CE1   HE1
              CE2   HE2

            Relevant HDB lines:
            3       4       HE3     CE3     SD      CG1
            1       1       HE1     CE1     CD1     CZ
            1       1       HE2     CE2     CD2     CZ

            I thought this would cover everything, but I am receiving
            the following sort of error from pdb2gmx for each of the
            the three CE3 hydrogens(pdb2gmx -f 2H5Q.pdb -o
            2H5Q_processed.gro -water tip3):

            "WARNING: atom HE31 is missing in residue CH6 66 in the
            pdb file
                    You might need to add atom HE31 to the hydrogen
            database of building block CH6
                    in the file aminoacids.hdb (see the manual)"

            I've looked at other examples in the aminoacids.hdb file
            and cannot figure out what I am missing here, it seems
            like my hdb rule should be adding 3 type 4 hydrogens
            named HE31, HE32, and HE33. I am assuming that the other
            hdb rules are OK, since they seemed to work fine before,
            as indicated by examining the gro file. I would sincerely
            appreciate any help you can offer. Thank you!


        I can't see a reason why that wouldn't work. However, there's
        no need for you to preserve the PDB atom name for CE.
        Reducing the potential for some atom-naming screw-up such as
        this is a good reason to change it (in both your coordinate
        file and .rtp entry). It will probably just work, or at the
        very least simplify further trouble-shooting.

        Mark


    Hello Mark, thank you for your help, but I took your very
    reasonable advice and am still receiving the exact same sort of
    error. I changed the PDB file atom name to CQ, which of course
    makes it unique within that residue (and indeed in the whole PDB
    file). I updated my .rtp entries and the .hdb rules accordingly,
    and yet I still receive the exact same sort of error. It seems as
    if something is wrong with my hdb syntax, but having looked at
    numerous other examples in the hdb file and online I am at a loss
    as to what the problem might be. For what it's worth, if I use
    the -missing switch when I run pdb2gmx, the other CH6 hydrogen
    atoms appear to be added correctly in the resulting gro file,
    with the names exactly as I expected from the hdb naming rules.


    My input:
    pdb2gmx -f 2H5Q_spdbv.pdb -o 2H5Q_processed.gro -water tip3

    Error received:
    "WARNING: atom HQ1 is missing in residue CH6 66 in the pdb file
             You might need to add atom HQ1 to the hydrogen database
    of building block CH6
             in the file aminoacids.hdb (see the manual)"

    "WARNING: atom HQ2 is missing in residue CH6 66 in the pdb file
             You might need to add atom HQ1 to the hydrogen database
    of building block CH6
             in the file aminoacids.hdb (see the manual)"

    "WARNING: atom HQ3 is missing in residue CH6 66 in the pdb file
             You might need to add atom HQ1 to the hydrogen database
    of building block CH6
             in the file aminoacids.hdb (see the manual)"



    PDB file:
    ATOM    493  CQ  CH6 A  66      42.848  20.230   6.798  1.00 40.19

    hdb file:
    CH6     9
    2       6       HG1     CG1     SD      CB1
    2       6       HB1     CB1     CG1     CA1
    2       6       HA3     CA3     C3      N3
    1       1       HB2     CB2     CA2     CG2
    1       1       HD1     CD1     CE1     CG2
    1       1       HD2     CD2     CE2     CG2
    1       1       HE1     CE1     CD1     CZ
    1       1       HE2     CE2     CD2     CZ
    3       4       HQ      CQ      SD      CG1

    rtp file (relevant portions only):
        CQ    opls_209      0.0     10
       HQ1    opls_140      0.0     11
       HQ2    opls_140      0.0     12
       HQ3    opls_140      0.0     13
    [bonds]
        SD     CQ
        CQ   HQ1
        CQ   HQ2
        CQ   HQ3

    I forgot to mention before, my GMX version is 4.5.4, running on a
    RHEL6 workstation. Thank you sincerely for any troubleshooting
    assistance you can provide. I am quite stumped by this problem!

    Weird. Does naming the residue something other than CH6 help?
    Specifically, something all letters. Has that residue been added
    as Protein to the residuetypes.dat? General advice here:
    
http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/Adding_a_Residue_to_a_Force_Field

    Mark


Aha! That did the trick! I changed the residue name to CHB in the input PDB file, the hdb file, the rtp file, and residuetypes.dat (I did have CH6 defined there as protein, by the way), and now pdb2gmx is adding those three hydrogens with no problem whatsoever. Thank you again very much, it never occurred to me that the residue name could be an issue.

I think I'll file a bug report on this. If nothing else this behavior is certainly unexpected, since pdb2gmx never mentions any possible issues with a number in the residue name.

Yes, please do that on the GROMACS Redmine. Please provide a tarball of a set of files that can reproduce the issue.

Mark


Thank you again very much for your help with this!

-Nathan


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J. Nathan Scott, Ph.D.
Postdoctoral Fellow
Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry
Montana State University



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