Amit Choubey wrote:
sorry i did not mention it but the E field contribution should be zero, i am sure about it. Also when i make all the cutoff = 0 the energy terms are
           Step           Time         Lambda
              0        0.00000        0.00000

   Energies (kJ/mol)
           Bond          Angle        LJ (SR)   Coulomb (SR)      Potential
    1.11496e-07    0.00000e+00    0.00000e+00    1.03128e+06    1.03128e+06
 Pressure (bar)
    0.00000e+00

           Step           Time         Lambda
              1        1.00000        0.00000

   Energies (kJ/mol)
           Bond          Angle        LJ (SR)   Coulomb (SR)      Potential
    7.49142e-02    0.00000e+00    0.00000e+00    1.03104e+06    1.03104e+06
 Pressure (bar)
    0.00000e+00

Coulomb (SR) is quite close but not exactly equal to previous case when cutoff is 60 nm.


Then I guess in this case you're getting intra-charge group short-range interactions, which I hadn't considered before. In the case of a ridiculously large charge group, atoms may be in the same group but outside the cutoff, in which case they would contribute to Coulomb (SR). Not a typical case.

-Justin

On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Justin A. Lemkul <jalem...@vt.edu <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu>> wrote:



    Amit Choubey wrote:

        Following is the mdp file

        cpp                 =  /usr/bin/cpp
        ;define              =  -DFLEX_SPC
        constraints         =  none
        integrator          =  steep
        nsteps              =  10000
        ;
        ;       Energy minimizing stuff
        ;
        emtol               =  200
        emstep              =  0.01
        pbc = no
        nstcomm             =  0
        ns_type             =  grid
        coulombtype     = Cut-off rlist               =  60
        rcoulomb            =  60
        rvdw                =  60
        Tcoupl              =  no
        Pcoupl              =  no
        gen_vel             =  no

        E_x = 1 0 0
        E_y = 1 0 0
        E_z = 1 0 0


        Following is the energy term

                  Step           Time         Lambda
                     0        0.00000        0.00000

          Energies (kJ/mol)
Bond Angle LJ (SR) Coulomb (SR) Potential 1.11496e-07 0.00000e+00 0.00000e+00 9.90561e+05 9.90561e+05
         Pressure (bar)
           0.00000e+00

                  Step           Time         Lambda
                     1        1.00000        0.00000

          Energies (kJ/mol)
Bond Angle LJ (SR) Coulomb (SR) Potential 7.55922e-02 0.00000e+00 0.00000e+00 9.90324e+05 9.90324e+05
         Pressure (bar)
           0.00000e+00



    I suspect that energy terms comes from the use of an electric field,
    which you had not mentioned before.

    -Justin

        Amit


        On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Justin A. Lemkul
        <jalem...@vt.edu <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu>
        <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu>>> wrote:



           Amit Choubey wrote:

               Justin, when i define the whole line charge as a charge
        group i
               do get a coulomb energy contribution. I thought there
        would be
               no non-bonded contribution. I use a very high cut-off (longer
               than chain length) and no pbc. Am i missing something ?


           Without seeing your .mdp file and the actual energy terms you're
           observing, I can only guess.  One would think that if it is
        the only
           molecule in the system, there should be no intermolecular
        Coulombic
           terms (unless maybe some arise due to periodicity, but in
        that case
           you do not have an infinite system and then they are artifacts).
            There may be intramolecular terms (like 1-4) or PME-related
        terms.

           -Justin

               On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Amit Choubey
               <kgp.a...@gmail.com <mailto:kgp.a...@gmail.com>
        <mailto:kgp.a...@gmail.com <mailto:kgp.a...@gmail.com>>
               <mailto:kgp.a...@gmail.com <mailto:kgp.a...@gmail.com>
        <mailto:kgp.a...@gmail.com <mailto:kgp.a...@gmail.com>>>> wrote:

                  I was not sure if changing the size of maxcg would not
        negatively
                  influence anything else. I will give it a try. Thanks
        Justin


                  On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 4:04 AM, Justin A. Lemkul
               <jalem...@vt.edu <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu>
        <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu>>
                  <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu>
        <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu>>>> wrote:



                      Amit Choubey wrote:

                          I change the maximum charge group size defined
        in the
                          include/types/nblist.h header from 32 to 267.
        Then grompp
                          worked fine but the mdrun did not start. The
               following error
                          came out

                          Program mdrun_jptlc, VERSION 4.5.3
                          Source code file: ns.c, line: 2417

                          Fatal error:
                          Max #atoms in a charge group: 267 > 64


                              /* Verify whether largest charge group is
        <= max cg.*
                               * This is determined by the type of the local
               exclusion
                          type *
                               * Exclusions are stored in bits. (If the
        type is
               not large*
                               * enough, enlarge it, unsigned char ->
        unsigned
               short
                          -> unsigned long)*
                               */


                      The solution is described in the comment above.


                              maxcg = sizeof(t_excl)*8;


                      Increase the size here.

                      -Justin


                              if (nr_in_cg > maxcg)
                              {
                                  gmx_fatal(FARGS,"Max #atoms in a charge
               group: %d >
                          %d\n",
                                            nr_in_cg,maxcg);
                              }


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