Da-Wei Li wrote:
I really don't think you can get adequate sampling for IDPs that have 40 residues, using full atomic MD.


I disagree. Perhaps brute force MD would not accomplish the task (unless you have considerable resources and don't want your answers very quickly, but even then...), but there are certainly a number of techniques, including implicit solvent, REMD, generalized Hamiltonian replica exchange, and fancy umbrella sampling and/or free energy settings that can vastly improve sampling for such systems.

-Justin


On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Michael Daily <mdaily.w...@gmail.com <mailto:mdaily.w...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    Do you have some experimental data to compare to your IDP
    simulations, like X-ray scattering or some such? I'd imagine that
    IDP simulations with either forcefield would only be qualitatively
    accurate given that the forcefields are calibrated, as you say, on
    rigid proteins and small molecules.

    On 6/8/11 8:00 AM, Thomas Evangelidis wrote:
    Dear Prof van der Spoel and GROMACS users,

    I have read the article "Scrutinizing Molecular Mechanics Force
    Fields..." where it is demonstrated that AMBER99sb yields protein
    conformations that are in better agreement with residual dipolar
    coupling, J-coupling and NOE data, compared with other force
    fields. However, both proteins used for this benchmark study
    (ubiquitin and protein G) are rather rigid, so I was wondering if
    there is a similar analysis for flexible proteins/peptides. I want
    to simulate a few intrinsically disordered proteins/peptides of
    length between 40 and 100 aa and would like to know what would be
    the best choice of force field to use. Any experience or knowledge
    on this matter would be greatly appreciated!

    thanks in advance,
    Thomas



    On 27 May 2011 19:01, David van der Spoel <sp...@xray.bmc.uu.se
    <mailto:sp...@xray.bmc.uu.se>> wrote:

        On 2011-05-27 17.50, simon sham wrote:

            Hi,
            I have recently done two simulations on a protein at high
            temperature
            near its melting temperature. At the beginning I used
            CHARMM forcefield,
            and then OPLSAA to double check the results. There are
            some differences
            in the structures between the forcefield used. I know
            different
            forcefields can give different results. All parameters in the
            simulations were the same except the forcefield. Is there
            anyway I can
            tell which forcefield gives more reliable results?

            Thanks for the insights,

            Simon

        You might want to check

        Oliver Lange, David van der Spoel and Bert de Groot:
        Scrutinizing Molecular Mechanics Force Fields on the
        Microsecond Timescale With NMR Data Biophys. J. 99 pp. 647-655
        (2010)

        where we compare a number of FFs to NMR data.

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