On 4/25/2011 8:05 PM, Sajad Ahrari wrote:
dear Justin
it seems that, ADP and ATP are not known to any of gromacs forcefields. but their topologies have been described in amber web site(as follows). should i be adding them to .tpr file of gromacs? if so, how can i access this file and is there any modification being needed in what amber has introduced? (or i have to just do something like copy and paste?)

This is doable, but there's probably no automatic conversion software, because nobody's needed to do this so often that writing software was worthwhile. So you'll have to spend some time with the AMBER and GROMACS documentation, to learn how to do the conversion of the parameters and functions between different file formats.

Mark

all the best
sajad

topology for ADP:
0    0    2

R-ADENOSINE - with diphosphate linker
adp.db94
  adp  INT     1
  CORRECT OMIT DU   BEG
    0.0
     1   DUMM  DU    M     0    0    0    0.000    0.000    0.000    0.000
     2   DUMM  DU    M     1    0    0    1.000    0.000    0.000    0.000
     3   DUMM  DU    M     2    1    0    1.000
  90.000    0.000    0.000
     4   O1B   O3    M     3    2    1    1.000   90.000  180.000   -0.9552
     5   PB    P     M     4    3    2    1.434   90.000  180.000    1.3672
     6   O2B   O3    E     5    4    3    1.574  107.490  -79.441   -0.9552
     7   O3B   O3    E     5    4    3    1.518  118.007  165.990   -0.9552
     8   O3A   OS    M     5    4    3    1.599  113.374  180.000   -0.6346
     9   PA    P     M     6    5    4    1.646  130.619   36.624    1.4929
    10   O1A   O2    E     7    6    5    1.504  109.212  -90.234   -0.9474
    11   O2A   O2    E     7    6    5    1.526  108.570   40.323   -0.9474
    12   O5*   OS    M     7    6    5    1.585   97.173  157.726   -0.6579
    13   C5*   CT    M     8    7    6    1.445  122.292  -66.317    0.0558
    14   H50   H1    E     9    8    7    1.059  109.484   27.531    0.0679
    15   H51   H1    E     9    8    7    1.059  109.437  -92.456    0.0679

  16   C4*   CT    M     9    8    7    1.477  113.286  147.538    0.1065
    17   H40   H1    E    16    9    8    1.059  105.768 -179.178    0.1174
    18   O4*   OS    S    16   13    9    1.482  106.235  -62.889   -0.3548
    19   C1*   CT    B    18   16   13    1.391  107.688  128.804    0.0394
    20   H10   H2    E    19   18   16    1.059  109.468   91.228    0.2007
    21   N9    N*    S    19   18   16    1.552  105.091 -143.300   -0.0251
    22   C8    CK    B    21   19   18    1.388  123.797   33.434    0.2006
    23   H80   H5    E    22   21   19    1.078  131.047   -3.389    0.1553
    24   N7    NB    S    22   21   19    1.384  108.967  176.598   -0.6073
    25   C5    CB    S    24   22   21    1.395  103.021    0.702    0.0515
    26   C6    CA    B    25   24   22    1.412  128.288  178.252    0.7009
    27   N6    N2    B    26   25   24    1.333  125.907   -3.791   -0.9019
    28   H60   H     E    27   26
  25    1.010  120.010    2.829    0.4115
    29   H61   H     E    27   26   25    1.009  120.014 -177.167    0.4115
    30   N1    NC    S    26   25   24    1.343  113.319  178.851   -0.7615
    31   C2    CQ    B    30   26   25    1.340  123.433   -1.664    0.5875
    32   H2    H5    E    31   30   26    1.077  120.022 -177.875    0.0473
    33   N3    NC    S    31   30   26    1.377  125.379    2.123   -0.6997
    34   C4    CB    E    33   31   30    1.300  108.242   -0.035    0.3053
    35   C3*   CT    M    16   13   12    1.484  117.051   57.581    0.2022
    36   H30   H1    E    35   16   13    1.059  117.939   24.820    0.0615
    37   O3*   OH    S    35   16   13    1.407  108.509  149.908   -0.6541
    38   H3*   HO    E    37   35   16    0.967  109.470  163.254    0.4376
    39   C2*   CT    M    35   16   13    1.607  102.425  -96.715    0.0670
    40   H20   H1    E    39   35   16    1.059  115.086   78.119
   0.0972
    41   O2*   OH    S    39   35   16    1.398  114.943 -153.294   -0.6139
    42   H2*   HO    E    41   39   35    0.967  109.456  -41.679    0.4186

IMPROPER
  C8   C4   N9   C1*
  C6   H60  N6   H61
  N7   N9   C8   H80
  N1   N3   C2   H2


topology for ATP:

0    0    2

R-ADENOSINE - with triphosphate linker
atp.db94
  atp  INT     1
  CORRECT OMIT DU   BEG
    0.0
     1   DUMM  DU    M     0    0    0    1.000   90.000  180.000    0.000
     2   DUMM  DU    M     1    0    0    0.967   90.000  180.000    0.000
     3   DUMM  DU    M     2    1    0    0.967  109.443  180.000    0.000
     4   O1G   O3    M     3    2    1    1.086  160.811  148.238   -0.9526
     5   PG    P     M     4    3    2    1.379   92.848 -159.681    1.2650
     6   O2G   O3    E     5    4    3    1.417  116.381 -173.072   -0.9526
     7   O3G
    O3    E     5    4    3    1.443  104.744   40.954   -0.9526
     8   O3B   OS    M     5    4    3    1.742   94.444  -63.733   -0.5322
     9   PB    P     M     8    5    3    1.512  135.464 -125.176    1.3852
    10   O1B   O2    E     9    8    5    1.415  113.542  -28.935   -0.8894
    11   O2B   O2    E     9    8    5    1.617  103.881 -164.747   -0.8894
    12   O3A   OS    M     9    8    5    1.734   96.237   83.499   -0.5689
    13   PA    P     M    12    9    8    1.516  131.613 -127.461    1.2532
    14   O1A   O2    E    13   12    9    1.526  115.352  -92.892   -0.8799
    15   O2A   O2    E    13   12    9    1.410  109.213   53.806   -0.8799
    16   O5*   OS    M    13   12    9    1.749   97.280  164.349   -0.5987
    17   C5*   CT    M    16   13   12    1.427  117.355   64.264    0.0558
    18   H50   H1    E    17   16   13    1.059  109.461  103.970    0.0679
    19   H51   H1    E    17   16   13
  1.059  109.491  -16.065    0.0679
    20   C4*   CT    M    17   16   13    1.446  107.888 -136.043    0.1065
    21   H40   H1    E    20   17   16    1.059  106.572 -167.965    0.1174
    22   O4*   OS    S    20   17   16    1.577  105.136  -48.024   -0.3548
    23   C1*   CT    B    22   20   17    1.562   99.310  148.198    0.0394
    24   H10   H2    E    23   22   20    1.059  104.667  127.006    0.2007
    25   N9    N*    S    23   22   20    1.651   99.707 -129.444   -0.0251
    26   C8    CK    B    25   23   22    1.400  121.683   69.274    0.2006
    27   H80   H5    E    26   25   23    1.077  128.168    2.532    0.1553
    28   N7    NB    S    26   25   23    1.327  111.806 -177.463   -0.6073
    29   C5    CB    S    28   26   25    1.365  104.681    2.256    0.0515
    30   C6    CA    B    29   28   26    1.448  131.894 -177.019    0.7009
    31   N6    N2    B    30   29   28    1.312  123.747   -3.485
  -0.9019
    32   H60   H     E    31   30   29    1.000  120.000  176.690    0.4115
    33   H61   H     E    31   30   29    1.000  120.000   -3.310    0.4115
    34   N1    NC    S    30   29   28    1.362  114.694  173.408   -0.7615
    35   C2    CQ    B    34   30   29    1.370  122.869    5.034    0.5875
    36   H2    H5    E    35   34   30    1.078  119.995  174.203    0.0473
    37   N3    NC    S    35   34   30    1.309  125.548   -5.799   -0.6997
    38   C4    CB    E    37   35   34    1.340  112.610    1.051    0.3053
    39   C3*   CT    M    20   17   16    1.539  120.245   66.848    0.2022
    40   H30   H1    E    39   20   17    1.059  109.025  -37.638    0.0615
    41   O3*   OH    S    39   20   17    1.390  114.084   86.172   -0.6541
    42   H3'   HO    E    41   39   20    0.967  109.487   -2.526    0.4376
    43   C2*   CT    M    39   20   17    1.606  106.034 -155.382    0.0670
    44   H20   H1
  E    43   39   20    1.059  123.901  158.202    0.0972
    45   O2*   OH    S    43   39   20    1.368  107.234  -72.414   -0.6139
    46   H2'   HO    E    45   43   39    0.967  109.442  -16.862    0.4186

IMPROPER
  C8   C4   N9   C1*
  C6   H60  N6   H61
  N7   N9   C8   H80
  N1   N3   C2   H2
  C5   N1   C6   N6

LOOP CLOSING EXPLICIT
  C1*  C2*
  C4   C5
  C4   N9

DONE
STOP





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*From:* Justin A. Lemkul <jalem...@vt.edu>
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*Sent:* Sat, April 23, 2011 5:46:24 PM
*Subject:* Re: [gmx-users] dealing with ATP



Sajad Ahrari wrote:
> tnx for your help Justin!
> but shouldn't the topology of S atom be described for gromacs? unless gromacs may know P atom with the same topology as S. although they may not be the same!?

You're talking about two separate issues - atom types and parameters for molecules. Yes, most (all?) force fields describe both P and S atoms, but I guarantee none of them have (by default) parameters for some species named "d" that represents ADP-SO4. You cannot assign parameters from P blindly to S and hope for the best. That sounds fundamentally wrong to me.

In your original message, it sounded like you wanted to change ADP-SO4 into ATP, but perhaps I misunderstood what you intended. No force field will be able to assign parameters to ADP-SO4, even though the force field may recognize individual atoms, it cannot construct a topology for any arbitrary molecules.

If you need to simulation this ADP-SO4 species, you're in for the long road of parameterization:

http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/Parameterization

Otherwise, change the S atom to P and name the molecule ATP so it will be recognized by whatever force field you choose, after you have verified that the force field can indeed recognize such a species. Otherwise, you're stuck doing parameterization for ATP, too.

-Justin

> regards
> sajad
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>
>
> Sajad Ahrari wrote:
> > Dear users
> > i am working with a protein witch holds a hetero-atom in it's pdb structure. the hetero-atom is named "d" and stands for "ADP+SO4" (in fact the third phosphate of ATP is being substituted with SO4). i wanted to know if gromacs holds a feature to change "d" into ATP? and if so do
>
> No, but you can use a text editor to replace the S atom with P.
>
> > i need to introduce ATP for Gromacs or it is known for the program?
>
> Some force fields support ATP, some do not. Check the .rtp files and see what you find.
>
> -Justin
>
> > i do appreciate your help!
> > sajad
> >
>
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