Elisabeth wrote:


On 31 March 2011 12:58, Justin A. Lemkul <jalem...@vt.edu <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu>> wrote:



    Elisabeth wrote:



        in your mail:


        On 30 March 2011 15:30, Justin A. Lemkul <jalem...@vt.edu
        <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu> <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu
        <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu>>> wrote:



           Elisabeth wrote:

               Dear all,

               I intend to obtain vaporization heat per volume for a /pure
               alkane system/.  Here is the steps I am taking. Please
        correct me.

               1- Obtain total energy of system (kinetic+potential) and
        divide
               by number of molecules to obtain energy per mol of molecules.
               g_energy -f *.edr -nmol XXX
               2- Obtain total energy of a single molecule (use pbc).
               3- Subtract step 2 from step 1.
               4- Divide by simulation box volume.

               My questions is:

               in step 2 : what should be the box size? The same size as
        in 1
               or it does not matter? (step 1 is done for the actual
        denstiy)


           More troubling, how does one define the energy of a molecule?  If
           you use any sort of long-range algorithms (especially PME,
        but also
           dispersion correction), you can't simply decompose the system
        like this.

        Thanks Justin and David.

        I have been trying to find the article in which this has been
        presented. If you have time Please see page 5937, right column,
        equation 11. I think I made a mistake and I dont have to include
        kinetic energy, Only nonboded energies!?

        http://pubs.acs.org/doi/pdfplus/10.1021/jp0707539


    What is cohesive energy and how does it relate to the quantity
    you're trying to calculate?

    It is delta Hvap/volume. It is directly related to Hvap. What is
    happening is that they are calculating nonbonded energy of some
    chains, divide by number of chains and substract from nonbonded
    energy of a single chain in vacuum. These are the steps I wrote in
    my first post but I think I should not have included kinetic and
    should just look at LJ-SR and Coulomb-SR.


I am using PME..If I remember correctly LR is included in Coulomb-SR and can not get decomposed? But I dont think this doesnt matter since if I am to take nonbonded energies this should not hurt,,,

Please comment ...


PME energies are from nonbonded interactions. The mesh energy is written to the "Coul-recip" term in the .edr file. If there is some other "Coul (LR)" term, it is because you're using a twin-range cutoff such that rcoulomb > rlist, which I do not believe is correct when using PME.

In the derivation of recent Gromos96 parameter sets, the heat of
           vaporization is quite simple:

           DHvap = <Ugas> - <Uliq> + RT


        1- So  <Uliq> is the total energy or only potential (no kinetic)


    Potential.


        2- How can I compute <Ugas>? I have liquid now...


    Run a simulation in the gas phase.


Sorry, but how can I do this? :( I have box of molecules with density of actual liquid..How can I shift to gas phase ..I mean how many molecules I need to keep in the box..


Make a box with an equivalent number of molecules separated by some large amount of space (i.e. 50 nm or so). Set pbc=no and all cutoffs to zero. I'm basing this on Gromos96 parameterization, but I don't know what your target force field is.

-Justin

Many thanks...


    -Justin


               Thank you,
               Regards,


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