mohsen ramezanpour wrote:
Dear  Dr.justin
Actually by doing this we are using two different force fields in one simulation. I had done it before and the result was that I discussed before in gmx-users(LINCS Error,Exploding system,Bad contacts between atoms)
Then,this approch seems to doesn't work about my system.

Then I want to find charges and charge groups for gromos 43A1 and replace them for my drug(to edit PRODRG file manually) and work totally in gromos 43A1.

Please keep your story consistent. In the last message, you said you wanted to work completely within 53A6, so I advised you on how to do that, now you say that you're trying to work completely within 43A1.

Unfortunately I can't obtain these parameter.

You certainly do have these parameters. 43A1 is part of the Gromacs installation; in the .rtp file you'll find all of the functional groups that were derived in 43A1, as applied to amino acids and a few other groups.

Please let me have if you have it.
Can I use some Ab Initio software for determining partial charges of my drug?
for example ABINIT or Gaussian!


My paper that you said you read has discussion and recommendations on this point. But be very clear: none of the QM methods we tested were able to reproduce the charges that are assigned to known functional groups since the Gromos parameterization methodology calls for "empirical refinement." Thus, manual modification and thorough validation are always necessary.

-Justin

Thanks in advance

On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 8:03 PM, Justin A. Lemkul <jalem...@vt.edu <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu>> wrote:



    mohsen ramezanpour wrote:

        Ok
        then,I can use  PRODRG server to generate .top and .gro files
        for drug.
        since it's reported charges are not very accurate ,we can
        replace all charges completely with them in 53A6(if was present).
        But it means we are working in 53A6 force field.
        then,we must generate .top and .gro files for our protein with
        53A6 too.
        and work completely with 53A6.
        Am i right?
        thanks in advance


    That sounds like a reasonable approach.  Be sure to validate the
    drug topology.  In my experience, this procedure is pretty good, but
    you always have to convince reviewers...

    -Justin


        On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Justin A. Lemkul
        <jalem...@vt.edu <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu>
        <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu>>> wrote:



           mohsen ramezanpour wrote:

               Dear Justin

               I read your articles about PRODRG server,they were very
        useful.
               But I have a question:
               are charges of functional groups and generally other atom
        groups
               the same in all force fields?
               Because you have modified charges of your molecules by
        Gromos96
               53A6 while prodrg server is generating topology files in
        43A1.
               I want to know can I replace charges from gromos 53A6 or
        other
               forcefields?
               thanks in advance


           Charges are not the same between force fields.  We did our study
           with 43A1 since that is what PRODRG purports to produce.  I would
           say that our recommendations carry to other Gromos force
        fields, as
           well, but don't take charges from 43A1 and apply them to
        53A6.  Be
           consistent within the force field.

           The atom types produced by PRODRG are largely shared between 43A1
           and 53A6, so if you *completely* replace all charges with
        those from
           53A6, you should have a topology that is compatible with 53A6.

           -Justin

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