Hi everyone, I have been trying to reproduce a simulation that I previously ran successfully with gromacs 3.3.3 in gromacs 4.0.7 and 4.5.1. It is of a tip4p water box generated with Packmol (and no I can't use the already provided tip4p water box). However I can't even make it past the energy minimisation step. I have noticed that all simulations run into trouble at step 12 and 3.3.3 manages to recover, whereas 4.0.7 and 4.5.1 get stuck. The results of 4.0.7 and 4.5.1 are identical. Here's an extract from the 4.0.7/4.5.1 log file: Step Time Lambda 11 11.00000 0.00000 Energies (kJ/mol) LJ (SR) Coulomb (SR) Coul. recip. Potential Pressure (bar) 8.12398e+03 -4.64002e+03 -8.80558e+02 2.60340e+03 -4.27109e+03 Step Time Lambda 12 12.00000 0.00000 Energies (kJ/mol) LJ (SR) Coulomb (SR) Coul. recip. Potential Pressure (bar) 5.67868e+03 -7.67528e+03 -1.19351e+03 -3.19011e+03 -5.97596e+04 Step Time Lambda 13 13.00000 0.00000 Step Time Lambda 14 14.00000 0.00000 Step Time Lambda 15 15.00000 0.00000 Step Time Lambda 16 16.00000 0.00000 Step Time Lambda 17 17.00000 0.00000 Step Time Lambda 18 18.00000 0.00000 Step Time Lambda 19 19.00000 0.00000 Step Time Lambda 20 20.00000 0.00000 Step Time Lambda 21 21.00000 0.00000 Step Time Lambda 22 22.00000 0.00000 Step Time Lambda 23 23.00000 0.00000 Step Time Lambda 24 24.00000 0.00000 Step Time Lambda 25 25.00000 0.00000 Step Time Lambda 26 26.00000 0.00000 Step Time Lambda 27 27.00000 0.00000 Step Time Lambda 28 28.00000 0.00000 Step Time Lambda 29 29.00000 0.00000 Stepsize too small, or no change in energy. Converged to machine precision, but not to the requested precision Fmax < 100 Double precision normally gives you higher accuracy. You might need to increase your constraint accuracy, or turn off constraints alltogether (set constraints = none in mdp file) Steepest Descents converged to machine precision in 30 steps, but did not reach the requested Fmax < 100. Potential Energy = -3.1901118e+03 Maximum force = 6.9292950e+05 on atom 97 Norm of force = 2.1575133e+04 And from the 3.3.3 log file: Step Time Lambda 11 11.00000 0.00000 Energies (kJ/mol) LJ (SR) Coulomb (SR) Coul. recip. Potential Kinetic En. 8.28949e+03 -4.56483e+03 -8.69953e+02 2.85470e+03 0.00000e+00 Total Energy Temperature Pressure (bar) 2.85470e+03 0.00000e+00 0.00000e+00 t = 0.012 ps: Water molecule starting at atom 97 can not be settled. Check for bad contacts and/or reduce the timestep.Wrote pdb files with previous and current coordinates Step Time Lambda 12 12.00000 0.00000 Step Time Lambda 13 13.00000 0.00000 Energies (kJ/mol) LJ (SR) Coulomb (SR) Coul. recip. Potential Kinetic En. 6.60039e+03 -6.11407e+03 -1.08723e+03 -6.00910e+02 0.00000e+00 Total Energy Temperature Pressure (bar) -6.00910e+02 0.00000e+00 0.00000e+00 ... (continued on with a few more similar warnings but eventually settled) ... Steepest Descents converged to Fmax < 100 in 233 steps Potential Energy = -2.3777645e+04 Maximum force = 9.8486107e+01 on atom 1393 Norm of force = 5.2092145e+02 And here's the input parameters: cpp = /usr/bin/cpp define = constraints = all-angles unconstrained_start = no constraint_algorithm = shake shake_tol = 0.0001 morse = no integrator = steep nsteps = 1000 ; Energy minimizing emtol = 100 emstep = 0.01 nstcomm = 1 nstlist = 10 ns_type = grid pbc = xyz rlist = 0.9 coulombtype = pme rcoulomb = 0.9 vdw-type = cut-off rvdw = 0.9 nstenergy = 10 Tcoupl = no Pcoupl = no gen_vel = no I then tried running the same parameters using the spc water box in the tutorial and got these results: 4.0.5/4.7.1 Steepest Descents converged to Fmax < 100 in 63 steps Potential Energy = -1.0896633e+04 Maximum force = 9.1075676e+01 on atom 202 Norm of force = 1.3547868e+01 3.3.3 Steepest Descents converged to Fmax < 100 in 32 steps Potential Energy = -1.0760295e+04 Maximum force = 8.2715759e+01 on atom 425 Norm of force = 5.6500586e+02 It also gave the same result for version 4 if I ran 4 with the .tpr file I had prepared using 3. I am running these remotely and I didn't know whether single or double precision versions were installed. The .trr file from 3.3.3 was twice the size of the others (even with half the steps), but gmxdump told me that all versions were single precision. Are the differences simply due changes between the versions? Looking at the release notes, most changes (particularly between 3.3.3 and 4.0.7) were related to parallelisation and I've run everything on a single cpu. Or is there something else I'm missing? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Cara
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