On 27/12/2010 9:22 AM, WU Yanbin wrote:
Hi, Mark,
Thanks for the reply.

As suggested, I tried a "water in vacuum" case. Initially the water droplet is a cubic 4nm-by-4nm-by-4nm water box, located in the middle of the simulation box. Everywhere else is just vacuum. The simulation box size is 8nm by 8nm by 8nm. SPC/E model is used to describe interaction between water molecules.
Such system is first equilibrated with "steep" option.

The "mdrun" simulation goes with no problem with parallel running on 32 cpus, even though there are occasionaly one or two water molecules move very fast (Mean square displacement being 200 times fast than bulk water) in the vacuum.
OK, that sounds like behaviour that might be expected... some molecules 
evaporate. Check the trajectory to be confident this is the situation.
When I switch to 64 cpus, the error "X particles communicated to PME 
node Y are more than a cell length out of the domain decomposition 
cell of their charge group" appears.
The most plausible reason for this is that the above evaporated 
molecules are moving so fast that they're doing what the error message 
says - travelling more than width of a box in one integration step. The 
DD implementation is predicated on that being impossible.
You might succeed by arranging for the largest possible internal DD cell 
diameter, i.e. a 4x4x4 DD. mdrun -npme 0 might choose this, otherwise 
use the hidden options to mdrun (use mdrun -hidden) to use that DD with 
-npme 0.
Otherwise, you'll need to accept the fact that there are "engineering" 
constraints on efficient parallelization algorithms, and not every 
situation can be catered for. For example, a simulation of a bulk LJ 
fluid would fail if you used so many processors that the cell diameter 
was too small with respect to the distribution of particle speeds.
Mark

Below is the parameter file I'm using.

------------------------------------
integrator               = md
tinit                    = 0
dt                       = 0.002
nsteps                   = 5000000

comm-mode                = Linear
nstcomm                  = 1
comm-grps                =

energygrps               =

nstlist                  = 1
ns_type                  = grid
pbc                      = xyz
rlist                    = 1.5

coulombtype              = PME
rcoulomb-switch          = 0
rcoulomb                 = 1.5
epsilon-r                = 1

vdw-type                 = Cut-off ;Switch
rvdw-switch              = 1.0
rvdw                     = 1.5

fourierspacing           = 0.12
fourier_nx               = 0
fourier_ny               = 0
fourier_nz               = 0
pme_order                = 4
ewald_rtol               = 1e-05
ewald_geometry           = 3d
epsilon_surface          = 0
optimize_fft             = no

Tcoupl                   = nose-hoover
tc-grps                  = System
tau_t                    = 1.0
ref_t                    = 300

Pcoupl                   = no ;Parrinello-Rahman ;no ;berendsen
Pcoupltype               = isotropic
tau_p                    = 1.0
compressibility          = 4.5e-5
ref_p                    = 1.0

gen_vel                  = no
gen_temp                 = 300
gen_seed                 = 2008

constraints              = none
constraint-algorithm     = Lincs
Shake-SOR                = no
shake-tol                = 1e-04
lincs-order              = 4
lincs-warnangle          = 30

energygrp_excl           =
------------------------------------

Is there any parameters configuration wrong with the simulation? Or is there any way to go around this error?
Any tip is appreciated.
Thank you.

Best,
Yanbin





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    Message: 1
    Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2010 17:24:18 +1100
    From: Mark Abraham <mark.abra...@anu.edu.au
    <mailto:mark.abra...@anu.edu.au>>
    Subject: Re: [gmx-users] How to suppress the error "X particles
           communicated    to PME node Y are more than a cell length
    out of the
           domain  decomposition cell of their charge group"
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    On 2/12/2010 4:16 PM, WU Yanbin wrote:
    > Dear GMXers,
    >
    > I'm running a simulation of water contact angle measurement on
    top of
    > graphite surface.
    > Initially a water cubic box is placed on two-layer graphite surface
    > with the rest of the box being vacuum. The water droplet is relaxed
    > during the simulation to develop a spherical shape.
    >
    > An error of "X particles communicated to PME node Y are more than a
    > cell length out of the domain decomposition cell of their charge
    > group" was encountered.
    > And I have read the suggested solutions at the link below
    >
    
http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors#X_particles_communicated_to_PME_node_Y_are_more_than_a_cell_length_out_of_the_domain_decomposition_cell_of_their_charge_group.
    >
    > I guess the reason for this error in my case is because of the
    vacuum
    > such that the water molecules at the boundary of the droplet can
    move
    > fast. I have check the trajectory and the simulation is OK.

    I doubt the simulation is OK. This error message is one of several
    that
    can happen when the system is not well-enough conditioned for the
    MD to
    be stable. See
    www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Blowing_Up
    <http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Blowing_Up>.
    Here, you have atoms moving much faster than GROMACS was engineered to
    expect.

    You should be confident that a water drop in a vacuum, and your
    graphite
    surface are both stable on their own before you try the wetting
    simulation.

    >
    > For this situation, is there a way of suppressing this error? Or
    what
    > else can I do?

    Work out why it's poorly conditioned.

    Mark

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